Quietcat electric assisted bike

[Special T]

I look forward to more details but I was pretty certain that the main concern was fire and off roading. If you look at the bike it doesn't scream motorized so I kinda doubt you would have any trouble.

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So it's okay if you can get away with it ?

We have had this kind of discussion before so I'll summarize it.

In the desire to be legal we have often searched for written or 100%proof what we are doing is legal, ok or whatever. When we push for this we get a strict definition and told yes or no, most likely no if we assume it's a grey area.

What is the goal/desire by the DNT or private timber holders on this issue? You may know better than I do but I will make an educated guess. Fires are a huge concern. Anything with a gas powered motor is a potential issue. The second issue I would guess is the tearing up of meadows, landscape and wet areas. If we have a pretty good idea that is why the no motorized rule is in place we understand the intent.

I'm guessing you haven't been on this bike, so if your peddling a mountain bike is it really that different?

Surely they don't want those new eletric dirtbikes out tearing things up so how do you think they will draw the line?

I've found that discretion and politeness covers most grey areas, you mileage may vary.

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[highside74]

I look forward to more details but I was pretty certain that the main concern was fire and off roading. If you look at the bike it doesn't scream motorized so I kinda doubt you would have any trouble.

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So it's okay if you can get away with it ?

We have had this kind of discussion before so I'll summarize it.

In the desire to be legal we have often searched for written or 100%proof what we are doing is legal, ok or whatever. When we push for this we get a strict definition and told yes or no, most likely no if we assume it's a grey area.

What is the goal/desire by the DNT or private timber holders on this issue? You may know better than I do but I will make an educated guess. Fires are a huge concern. Anything with a gas powered motor is a potential issue. The second issue I would guess is the tearing up of meadows, landscape and wet areas. If we have a pretty good idea that is why the no motorized rule is in place we understand the intent.

I'm guessing you haven't been on this bike, so if your peddling a mountain bike is it really that different?

Surely they don't want those new eletric dirtbikes out tearing things up so how do you think they will draw the line?

I've found that discretion and politeness covers most grey areas, you mileage may vary.

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Actually  there is a lawsuit filed by a disabled women from Klickitat County because the US Forest Service considered her ebike a motorized vehicle and limited it to only road systems and trails allowed by jeeps and dirtbikes. It's  spelled out in the Seattle times article plain as day. They consider an electric motor a motor at this time. We will see where it ends up.

[mikeybuck]

I guess if I'm gonna get a ticket, I might as well use my dirt bike. Same ticket and it took me less energy to make it to the top of the hill.

[highside74]

I guess if I'm gonna get a ticket, I might as well use my dirt bike. Same ticket and it took me less energy to make it to the top of the hill.

And you don't have to go buy an electric bike. I like it.

[Southpole]

I don't think I has to be on electric all the time, there's still pedals 

[Special T]

I look forward to more details but I was pretty certain that the main concern was fire and off roading. If you look at the bike it doesn't scream motorized so I kinda doubt you would have any trouble.

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So it's okay if you can get away with it ?

We have had this kind of discussion before so I'll summarize it.

In the desire to be legal we have often searched for written or 100%proof what we are doing is legal, ok or whatever. When we push for this we get a strict definition and told yes or no, most likely no if we assume it's a grey area.

What is the goal/desire by the DNT or private timber holders on this issue? You may know better than I do but I will make an educated guess. Fires are a huge concern. Anything with a gas powered motor is a potential issue. The second issue I would guess is the tearing up of meadows, landscape and wet areas. If we have a pretty good idea that is why the no motorized rule is in place we understand the intent.

I'm guessing you haven't been on this bike, so if your peddling a mountain bike is it really that different?

Surely they don't want those new eletric dirtbikes out tearing things up so how do you think they will draw the line?

I've found that discretion and politeness covers most grey areas, you mileage may vary.

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Actually  there is a lawsuit filed by a disabled women from Klickitat County because the US Forest Service considered her ebike a motorized vehicle and limited it to only road systems and trails allowed by jeeps and dirtbikes. It's  spelled out in the Seattle times article plain as day. They consider an electric motor a motor at this time. We will see where it ends up.

Interesting haven't heard of that.

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[highside74]

And the Washington WAC states an Ebike is excluded from being a scooter or motorcycle but to be considered a nonmotorized vehicle the electric motor would have to be disengaged. So you would have to leave the battery in the truck which kinda defeats the purpose of having an Ebike.

[kentrek]

Please raise your hand if your going to pedal one of these 70 pound bikes with out the assist on.....good luck !

[Bullkllr]

Well, here's what Hancock says about it:

"17. No off-road vehicles,
electric bicycles, ATVs, motorcycles or snowmobiles are allowed, not even in the back of the pick-up." 

Weyerhaeuser Rules state:
"• No ATV, ORVs, motorcycles or motor-assisted bicycles"

DNR:
"Motor vehicle or motorized vehicle" means any device that is moved or propelled by an internal combustion engine or electrically powered motor. It shall include, but not be limited to automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles, motor bikes, motor-scooters and off-road vehicles, whether or not they can be licensed to operate on public roads. The term does not include vessels or personal mobility assistive devices, such as wheelchairs.
"Nonmotorized vehicles" means any device that is moved or propelled by means other than an internal combustion engine or electrically powered motor, including but not limited to bicycles, roller blades, mountain boards, animal drawn carriages or conveyances, excluding vessels and personal mobility assistive devices, such as wheelchairs.

As stated above, USFS rules seem pretty clear.

That does not leave a lot of options where these motor vehicles would be permitted. Pretty sure the cat's already out of the bag on the motor-bike deal.

IMO, these rules are in place in gated areas for more reasons than fire prevention; quality of the experience and leaving some areas for those who are willing to work under their own power to get there come to mind.

[highside74]

Maybe Riverside will find a buyer from Idaho. Pretty much leaves Washington out of the Ebike hunting market.

[branches]

That bike could work good as a shuttle for your drift boat.