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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2009, 01:48:17 PM »
Dream on fishunt247.  The WDFW will never do that.  They should but they wont.  They wont do that for the same reason why the wont go to permit only for elk in E. WA.  It's all about the money.  They would lose too much revenue if they did that.  I agree with you.  I wish they would but they wont.

You spoke about mud lake.  That was awsome when 342 was permit only for deer.  There was some really nice bucks that ran around there.  If only ......
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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2009, 05:31:42 PM »
Like you said, WDFW is a business and thats it. They are interested in money. It would make too much sense, especially in the wake of the louse problem, to make some affected units permit only.

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2009, 07:26:11 PM »
 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

i got drawn for the tag "mud lake" the year it re opened after the bad winter of 1996, to put it lightly i was amazed at the deer numbers in the area, i hunted hard for the entire season doing nothing but breaking arrows and watching deer run away from me, had a blast......BUT what sense does it make now to have that unit open modern general season and muzzleloader, but closed to archery?

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2009, 07:37:48 PM »
I wish they would have never opened it up but left it draw only, as most probably do. It was a closer option for hunters in the Yakima Valley that produced some really nice deer. Typical game dept though. Tag sales, tag sales, tag sales.

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2009, 09:04:21 PM »
I wish they would have never opened it up but left it draw only, as most probably do. It was a closer option for hunters in the Yakima Valley that produced some really nice deer. Typical game dept though. Tag sales, tag sales, tag sales.

TAG SALES, TAG SALES, TAG SALES >:( >:( >:(


Couldn't have said it better myself.  Course if you ask them it has nothing to do with tag sales.  They are simply doing what the hunters in this state want.  Since when do they ever truly listen to us? :bash: :bash:
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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2009, 09:07:14 PM »
They opened up the area because of pressures from sportsman like you and I. They also thought that the deer were mostly migratory. If you were there that year they opened it up it was a complete massacre. Dead deer hanging in every tree. They were wrong.

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2009, 09:21:52 PM »
They opened up the area because of pressures from sportsman like you and I. They also thought that the deer were mostly migratory. If you were there that year they opened it up it was a complete massacre. Dead deer hanging in every tree. They were wrong.
Was it 04 when they re opened it? I hunted that, it was my first year. And yes it was crazy.

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2009, 09:28:47 PM »
I heard the Umtanum went back to a general season because the tribal members were shooting many of the big bucks on their winter range. They figured why keep it permit only if the deer are going to be slaughtered anyway. I don't know if that's true. If there's any truth to it, pressure from the public to open it back up was also another big factor for opening it back up.

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2009, 09:36:28 PM »
I heard the Umtanum went back to a general season because the tribal members were shooting many of the big bucks on their winter range. They figured why keep it permit only if the deer are going to be slaughtered anyway. I don't know if that's true. If there's any truth to it, pressure from the public to open it back up was also another big factor for opening it back up.

I had also heard that they opened it back up because the tribes were in there shooting the deer on their winter range.

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2009, 08:04:16 AM »
I have posted a pic of this shed once already, but here is another picture of it. It was found somewhere between Chinook pass and White pass  :dunno:. And it scores 74 5/8 inches. Give it a 20 inch spread credit and you have got a 165 inch deer. It probably made it through the winter so the next set of antlers it grew were probabaly 10-20 inches bigger, so that would be a 175+ inch deer. And it is a benchleg buck. No where close to firing center area. So yes there are big deer around Yakima just few and far between.

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2009, 08:28:20 AM »
My brother in law shot a nice benchleg buck in 342 the year they reopend it. It has gone to s&!* since then. I wish they would close it again for a few years.

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2009, 09:22:26 AM »
Yep Reddawg, thats the official reason I heard about that reopening too. I didn't hunt it because I honestly did not think that it would be safe. But I had buddies who did, and like you said, massacre. I didn't pressure them to open it? I love to see a few more permit only areas. Or do you mean that there are too many of us for the land area we have and they wanted to spread people out more?

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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2009, 08:26:05 PM »
I heard the Umtanum went back to a general season because the tribal members were shooting many of the big bucks on their winter range. They figured why keep it permit only if the deer are going to be slaughtered anyway. I don't know if that's true. If there's any truth to it, pressure from the public to open it back up was also another big factor for opening it back up.

I had also heard that they opened it back up because the tribes were in there shooting the deer on their winter range.

+1.  Of course the WDFW would never officially admit to that being the reason.  The official reason was from public pressure to reopen it.  I think that the WDFW should grow a sack and do what's right for once and sometimes that involves telling the general opinion of hunters to shove it. 
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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2009, 09:16:54 PM »
I would have to disagree 100% with the above statement, not about the picture because I haven't seen it, but the idea that anywhere around Yakima doesn't have the genetics to produce that big of deer. What about that 219" buck killed on the Rez like 3 or 4 years ago? In my understanding that buck was killed north of glenwood, close to Klickitat Meadows. If you hunt in the uppermost part of the Cowiche Unit, you are on the other side of the Meadows. That buck wasn't a pure muley, not even close. The genetics are there, somewhere, not in great amounts but there is the possibility, but they don't get the age required to get that big.


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Re: Nile 08 buck????
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2009, 09:48:04 PM »
WOW!!! now that would be one crazy European mount. Could you imagine the looks you would get when someone saw that hanging on the wall. :yike:

 


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