Suppressor

[Yondering]

My understanding is that selling a suppressor once you own it is not worth the effort, more trouble then it is worth. Not an expert or do I have experience reselling a suppressor, but that is a question I asked my dealer and his response was that once I own it I better like it

Oh really? Once you get one, your stuck with it?

Well, sorta but not really. They just aren't as easy to sell as a firearm, and the used suppressor market is pretty small because the tax stamps are part of the cost. Here's my understanding of how it works:

In state sales: Buyer pays you in full, and sends in Form 4 paperwork with $200 to the ATF; once that is approved (maybe up to a year these days) you can give the suppressor to the buyer.

Out of state sales IIRC have to go through a dealer, and TWO tax stamps are required at $200 each.

With that in mind suppressor price obviously is a big factor in whether it has any resale value. A $1000 rifle suppressor might be worth re-selling if you don't like it. A $200 rimfire can though - you'd have to give it away for free.

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Out of state sales IIRC have to go through a dealer, and TWO tax stamps are required at $200 each.

An out of state sale goes through a dealer but the transfer to a dealer is done through a Form 3 and there is no cost involved but you do have to wait for a Form 3 to be approved from the ATF before you can transfer the suppressor to the dealer.  At one time the Form 3's were taking up to three months to get approved but I think they are back down to only a couple weeks or maybe less now. 

It's kind of a screwy system and sometimes doesn't make any sense but even when a suppressor goes from the manufacturer to a dealer, they have to get a Form 3 approval.  So say it goes from the manufacturer to a distributor then to a dealer, it will have gone through two Form 3's and if it ever gets transferred to a different dealer again, it has to get a Form 3 approval from the ATF before it can be transferred.

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I just picked mine up today from Rainier Arms in Auburn. My tax stamp app was signed 5/23/17 as an individual. A guy was there that just got his as a trust app applied for last November. Don't know if that is common.

[Yondering]

Out of state sales IIRC have to go through a dealer, and TWO tax stamps are required at $200 each.

An out of state sale goes through a dealer but the transfer to a dealer is done through a Form 3 and there is no cost involved but you do have to wait for a Form 3 to be approved from the ATF before you can transfer the suppressor to the dealer.  At one time the Form 3's were taking up to three months to get approved but I think they are back down to only a couple weeks or maybe less now. 

It's kind of a screwy system and sometimes doesn't make any sense but even when a suppressor goes from the manufacturer to a dealer, they have to get a Form 3 approval.  So say it goes from the manufacturer to a distributor then to a dealer, it will have gone through two Form 3's and if it ever gets transferred to a different dealer again, it has to get a Form 3 approval from the ATF before it can be transferred.

Are you sure about that and have you done it? Every credible source I've read indicates that F3 is only for dealer to dealer transfers, not individual to dealer. Maybe that's wrong, but my understanding is a transfer from individual to dealer = F4 +$200, then that dealer to other dealer is F3, then F4 to buyer +$200.

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Out of state sales IIRC have to go through a dealer, and TWO tax stamps are required at $200 each.

An out of state sale goes through a dealer but the transfer to a dealer is done through a Form 3 and there is no cost involved but you do have to wait for a Form 3 to be approved from the ATF before you can transfer the suppressor to the dealer.  At one time the Form 3's were taking up to three months to get approved but I think they are back down to only a couple weeks or maybe less now. 

It's kind of a screwy system and sometimes doesn't make any sense but even when a suppressor goes from the manufacturer to a dealer, they have to get a Form 3 approval.  So say it goes from the manufacturer to a distributor then to a dealer, it will have gone through two Form 3's and if it ever gets transferred to a different dealer again, it has to get a Form 3 approval from the ATF before it can be transferred.

Are you sure about that and have you done it? Every credible source I've read indicates that F3 is only for dealer to dealer transfers, not individual to dealer. Maybe that's wrong, but my understanding is a transfer from individual to dealer = F4 +$200, then that dealer to other dealer is F3, then F4 to buyer +$200.

I didn't realize you meant if someone bought a suppressor from an out of state private party it would have to go through two Form 4's.  In that case, I don't know so you may be correct.  I've purchased all of my cans, except one, from out of state dealers and it was no big deal, just adds a little time to the process, but I couldn't imagine ever buying a can from an out of state private party.

[Yondering]

Yes, the discussion was about resale from one private party to another; I was explaining why that market is limited.

I've bought new suppressors both in state and out of state, that's a different thing.