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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #285 on: August 17, 2017, 11:41:44 AM »
I guess I'd like to see a place (forum section) where you had to make a certain number of posts (not off topic posts) to gain access.  It would help ensure that outsiders don't see some of your secret data.  It might be a safe place to offer advice on special hunts or areas when people felt like it was pertinent.  I don't mind sharing tips about a special hunt spot with a small group of interested applicants as long as I receive some help in return, but I don't really want to share it on the general net for someone to google search.

Not trying to get exclusive, just want to make sure people are roughly giving some as they take some.
Why not just use the pm option.
I would have to agree with the PM option.  You may have a new person come onto the forum but has a wealth of knowledge from hunting many years and hunting tons of animals. They just didn't know about the forum or just moved here from somewhere else.  What we are trying to accomplish is the same rules for everyone across the forum whether they are new members or veterans.  We don't want to have different rules for different hunters.  :tup:
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #286 on: August 17, 2017, 11:50:16 AM »
I guess I'd like to see a place (forum section) where you had to make a certain number of posts (not off topic posts) to gain access.  It would help ensure that outsiders don't see some of your secret data.  It might be a safe place to offer advice on special hunts or areas when people felt like it was pertinent.  I don't mind sharing tips about a special hunt spot with a small group of interested applicants as long as I receive some help in return, but I don't really want to share it on the general net for someone to google search.

Not trying to get exclusive, just want to make sure people are roughly giving some as they take some.
Why not just use the pm option.
I would have to agree with the PM option.  You may have a new person come onto the forum but has a wealth of knowledge from hunting many years and hunting tons of animals. They just didn't know about the forum or just moved here from somewhere else.  What we are trying to accomplish is the same rules for everyone across the forum whether they are new members or veterans.  We don't want to have different rules for different hunters.  :tup:

And you might have a new guy come on to the forum who's never hunted before and doesn't have anyone to look to for information and advice. That's also what we're here for.

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #287 on: August 17, 2017, 12:21:02 PM »
My  :twocents::  Anonymity doesn't work well. I use my real name on every forum to check myself; as self-regulation, to keep me in-line. Requiring real names in profiles might discourage some bad behavior.  Keep "cool" handles/avatars, but have real names in users' profiles.  I have no instance where using my real name compromised my privacy. For me, personal responsibility is more important than the privacy of using a screen name.
wish I could change my username to my real name.   Made an account because my brother insisted.  Had no intention of participating so just threw something up.  Can they be changed?

I see yours has already been changed, but you could also just include it in your signature instead of changing your Username....just a thought and an option for some folks!
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #288 on: August 17, 2017, 12:30:03 PM »
I guess I'd like to see a place (forum section) where you had to make a certain number of posts (not off topic posts) to gain access.  It would help ensure that outsiders don't see some of your secret data.  It might be a safe place to offer advice on special hunts or areas when people felt like it was pertinent.  I don't mind sharing tips about a special hunt spot with a small group of interested applicants as long as I receive some help in return, but I don't really want to share it on the general net for someone to google search.

Not trying to get exclusive, just want to make sure people are roughly giving some as they take some.

I guess my point is there is stuff I do share and would continue to share that I know the whole internet can see.  I would offer a different level of information for a group of known like-minded participants.  I would say that currently that information I have to share is not available anywhere because I'm afraid of it being used out of context.  My suggestion would be that a different space would have NEW information that people currently are afraid to share.  I wouldn't suggest taking existing levels of information away.  Does that make sense?  Regardless, just a thought.
Why not just use the pm option.
I would have to agree with the PM option.  You may have a new person come onto the forum but has a wealth of knowledge from hunting many years and hunting tons of animals. They just didn't know about the forum or just moved here from somewhere else.  What we are trying to accomplish is the same rules for everyone across the forum whether they are new members or veterans.  We don't want to have different rules for different hunters.  :tup:

And you might have a new guy come on to the forum who's never hunted before and doesn't have anyone to look to for information and advice. That's also what we're here for.



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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #289 on: August 17, 2017, 01:05:27 PM »
I started hunting about 10 years ago, and didn't know much about anything.  I came here mostly to learn and I did, though I didn't have much to contribute.  Using the search tool and doing lost of reading in old threads gave me most of what I needed.  I rarely felt the need to post questions since most of my questions had already been asked (many times) in prior years.

I've been here much less in the last few years now that I have a better idea what I'm doing.  I've also learned that if I don't ask a question then I'm forced to think and figure it out myself.  That feels good.  We all have a ton of info available to us through the internet, but its still nice to sometimes shun that option, struggle to find your own path, sometimes succeed, often fail, but ultimately learn what works for you.

Lots of good people and knowledge on this forum.  It's not perfect, but perfection is not needed.

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #290 on: August 17, 2017, 01:22:06 PM »
I'm not sure if heavy moderation is going to encourage new members or bring back the "good guys" in fact it could very well do the opposite :dunno: Hunters need diverse opinions to be heard instead of the "my way or the highway approach" :twocents: Not sure if this is the right path, but only time will tell.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #291 on: August 17, 2017, 01:28:33 PM »
I'm not sure if heavy moderation is going to encourage new members or bring back the "good guys" in fact it could very well do the opposite :dunno: Hunters need diverse opinions to be heard instead of the "my way or the highway approach" :twocents: Not sure if this is the right path, but only time will tell.

There's a huge difference between differing opinions and trolling.

We've already seen a lot of people reengaging the forum just based on the idea that the leadership is implementing  :tup:
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #292 on: August 17, 2017, 01:33:31 PM »
I'm not sure if heavy moderation is going to encourage new members or bring back the "good guys" in fact it could very well do the opposite :dunno: Hunters need diverse opinions to be heard instead of the "my way or the highway approach" :twocents: Not sure if this is the right path, but only time will tell.

We understand that some members do not want any moderation, some members want more moderation, and if I remember correctly according to the poll last spring the majority of members thought were were moderating about right. The problem is that negativity of all types has worsened, more and more members are saying this, so we are tightening adherence to the rules. We are resolute in bringing more civility back to the forum and anyone taking a stand as if to test our resolution will be disappointed.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #293 on: August 17, 2017, 01:34:56 PM »
I'm not sure if heavy moderation is going to encourage new members or bring back the "good guys" in fact it could very well do the opposite :dunno: Hunters need diverse opinions to be heard instead of the "my way or the highway approach" :twocents: Not sure if this is the right path, but only time will tell.

There's a huge difference between differing opinions and trolling.

We've already seen a lot of people reengaging the forum just based on the idea that the leadership is implementing  :tup:

Not sure if there is a huge difference. Seems here these days anyone with a different opinion is labeled a troll when they go against the majority.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #294 on: August 17, 2017, 01:40:03 PM »
I'm not sure if heavy moderation is going to encourage new members or bring back the "good guys" in fact it could very well do the opposite :dunno: Hunters need diverse opinions to be heard instead of the "my way or the highway approach" :twocents: Not sure if this is the right path, but only time will tell.

We understand that some members do not want any moderation, some members want more moderation, and if I remember correctly according to the poll last spring the majority of members thought were were moderating about right. The problem is that negativity of all types has worsened, more and more members are saying this, so we are tightening adherence to the rules. We are resolute in bringing more civility back to the forum and anyone taking a stand as if to test our resolution will be disappointed.

Then nuke the trouble makers then. But just make sure that is what they are and not someone with a different opinion. 

And most of the mod gods here are pretty good guys, but there is a % that need banning too. I would fix this site if I was on the mod squad jk :chuckle: 
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #295 on: August 17, 2017, 01:54:03 PM »
I'm not sure if heavy moderation is going to encourage new members or bring back the "good guys" in fact it could very well do the opposite :dunno: Hunters need diverse opinions to be heard instead of the "my way or the highway approach" :twocents: Not sure if this is the right path, but only time will tell.

We understand that some members do not want any moderation, some members want more moderation, and if I remember correctly according to the poll last spring the majority of members thought were were moderating about right. The problem is that negativity of all types has worsened, more and more members are saying this, so we are tightening adherence to the rules. We are resolute in bringing more civility back to the forum and anyone taking a stand as if to test our resolution will be disappointed.

Then nuke the trouble makers then. But just make sure that is what they are and not someone with a different opinion. 

And most of the mod gods here are pretty good guys, but there is a % that need banning too. I would fix this site if I was on the mod squad jk :chuckle:

Everyone has a different opinion of good guys and bad guys, I don't think that's good criteria. Criteria for a ban should be based on breaking forum rules, creating drama, bashing other members, or bashing this forum. Mods can do an immediate ban when they see the need, but every ban is reviewed by the mod team, if any ban is not approved by the team it is lifted. We are very happy that members are offering their thoughts, we are reading every comment. THANKS AGAIN
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #296 on: August 17, 2017, 02:48:32 PM »
I'm not sure if heavy moderation is going to encourage new members or bring back the "good guys" in fact it could very well do the opposite :dunno: Hunters need diverse opinions to be heard instead of the "my way or the highway approach" :twocents: Not sure if this is the right path, but only time will tell.

We understand that some members do not want any moderation, some members want more moderation, and if I remember correctly according to the poll last spring the majority of members thought were were moderating about right. The problem is that negativity of all types has worsened, more and more members are saying this, so we are tightening adherence to the rules. We are resolute in bringing more civility back to the forum and anyone taking a stand as if to test our resolution will be disappointed.

Then nuke the trouble makers then. But just make sure that is what they are and not someone with a different opinion. 

And most of the mod gods here are pretty good guys, but there is a % that need banning too. I would fix this site if I was on the mod squad jk :chuckle:

Everyone has a different opinion of good guys and bad guys, I don't think that's good criteria. Criteria for a ban should be based on breaking forum rules, creating drama, bashing other members, or bashing this forum. Mods can do an immediate ban when they see the need, but every ban is reviewed by the mod team, if any ban is not approved by the team it is lifted. We are very happy that members are offering their thoughts, we are reading every comment. THANKS AGAIN

 Breaking forum rules, bashing members or the forum, are generally clear cut offenses, however "creating drama" is subjective, sometimes presumptive, which at times is confused with "differing of opinion"...........I think that's what he is getting at. ;)
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #297 on: August 17, 2017, 02:53:51 PM »
I'm not sure if heavy moderation is going to encourage new members or bring back the "good guys" in fact it could very well do the opposite :dunno: Hunters need diverse opinions to be heard instead of the "my way or the highway approach" :twocents: Not sure if this is the right path, but only time will tell.

We understand that some members do not want any moderation, some members want more moderation, and if I remember correctly according to the poll last spring the majority of members thought were were moderating about right. The problem is that negativity of all types has worsened, more and more members are saying this, so we are tightening adherence to the rules. We are resolute in bringing more civility back to the forum and anyone taking a stand as if to test our resolution will be disappointed.

Then nuke the trouble makers then. But just make sure that is what they are and not someone with a different opinion. 

And most of the mod gods here are pretty good guys, but there is a % that need banning too. I would fix this site if I was on the mod squad jk :chuckle:

Everyone has a different opinion of good guys and bad guys, I don't think that's good criteria. Criteria for a ban should be based on breaking forum rules, creating drama, bashing other members, or bashing this forum. Mods can do an immediate ban when they see the need, but every ban is reviewed by the mod team, if any ban is not approved by the team it is lifted. We are very happy that members are offering their thoughts, we are reading every comment. THANKS AGAIN

 Breaking forum rules, bashing members or the forum, are generally clear cut offenses, however "creating drama" is subjective, sometimes presumptive, which at times is confused with "differing of opinion"...........I think that's what he is getting at. ;)

I will certainly consider that.  :tup:
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #298 on: August 17, 2017, 05:09:16 PM »
Am I the only one that enjoys the forum ? Sure there is definitely some pissing matches at times. That stuff happens  :dunno: I help out anyone I can trapping hunting or just information.
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« Reply #299 on: August 17, 2017, 05:14:24 PM »
Am I the only one that enjoys the forum ? Sure there is definitely some pissing matches at times. That stuff happens  :dunno: I help out anyone I can trapping hunting or just information.
 Hope everyone has a great season!
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Nope, you're not. Thanks for your participation!

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