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Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« on: August 15, 2017, 08:39:14 AM »
I shoot a single pin.
I wear reading glasses because my eyes were adjusted for distance.
I have a blury pin and a bright glow from the pin just above and to the left of the pin head.
I've wrapped my sight housing with electrical tape to tone down the brightness of the pin glare.
That helped some.
Regardless...................I don't have a clear or even reasonably clear pin.

I know they make the lens that goes in the pep but I worry about a pep lens getting fogged in or having a water droplet on it at crunch time.

Any thoughts or suggestions or feed back on what has worked for other blind guys?????

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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 08:42:11 AM »
You need a clarifier peep lense - however I'm not sure these are legal for Washington.

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/salesperson/result/?q=clarifier&Trigger=ac
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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 08:47:46 AM »
...you also need to get prescription glasses or even better, contacts. I used my $1 store readers for quite a few years until my pins started getting fuzzy. The glasses changed everything. Good luck!  :tup:
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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2017, 08:51:20 AM »
It looks like only a scope is prohibited, according to this link.  Page 84 of the regulations.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01903/wdfw01903.pdf
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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2017, 09:01:40 AM »
...you also need to get prescription glasses or even better, contacts. I used my $1 store readers for quite a few years until my pins started getting fuzzy. The glasses changed everything. Good luck!  :tup:

Worn contacts my whole life until I had Lasik for distance which is what caused the up close poor vision.

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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 09:32:03 AM »
I've had this same problem for the last 2-3 years.  Readers improve the sight pin blurriness but the target becomes a huge blur and prescription glasses keep the target in focus while blurring the pins much worse than no glasses at all.  I've learned which part of the blurred pin is actually the pin (the bottom 1/3rd of the blur) so that's how I've (sort of) resolved this situation so far.  Certain lighting situations make the blurriness situation better or worse.

I'll be honest, if I knew for sure that this "clarifier" would resolve the problem I would install it on my bow regardless of the legality.

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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 09:37:36 AM »
I've had this same problem for the last 2-3 years.  Readers improve the sight pin blurriness but the target becomes a huge blur and prescription glasses keep the target in focus while blurring the pins much worse than no glasses at all.  I've learned which part of the blurred pin is actually the pin (the bottom 1/3rd of the blur) so that's how I've (sort of) resolved this situation so far.  Certain lighting situations make the blurriness situation better or worse.

I'll be honest, if I knew for sure that this "clarifier" would resolve the problem I would install it on my bow regardless of the legality.

I have one on my Target Bow and it works wonders.  I wear contacts and struggled to get a clear picture until I installed a clarifier.
Generally, they are used for scopes on target bows, but it would work for a pin site as well.
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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2017, 09:47:16 AM »
I'm researching this issue a little at the moment and it seems there are both clarifiers and a verifiers, each with a different purpose.  Sounds like a verifier might be what is needed for blurry pins whereas a clarifier is what is needed for a blurry target.  Check out this link for more - http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1319247

I should also mention that some folks are using a clarifier or verifier during practice but remove it during hunting season since rain/fog are issues with the lenses.  This topic definitely deserves further investigation before deciding what (if anything) to get to resolve problems for our old eyes.

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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2017, 09:57:07 AM »
I didn't know there was a product like this available until this thread. Interestingly I was shooting the walk through course with all my gear (weighted pack, binoculars and new contact lens) yesterday and experienced the same sort of blurrieness of my pins. Thankfully it wasn't so bad that I couldn't make them out.....cool to know they exist.
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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2017, 10:04:48 AM »
I just ordered the verifier tool that tells you which power to get.
Then I will order the correct one.
Going to a proshop that has one is great but I would rather test the different ones on my own terms. :)
You need to be careful to keep target in focus but still help your pin clarity.

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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2017, 10:31:59 AM »
I'm in Auburn.

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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2017, 12:25:30 AM »
If you can try a different color pin that might help. I think the green pin on the HHA site is very bright but if you change it to a red one you might see a clear edge on the pin profile. Also I have painted the inside of my scope ring flat black to stop the glare.

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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2017, 07:52:28 AM »
If you can try a different color pin that might help. I think the green pin on the HHA site is very bright but if you change it to a red one you might see a clear edge on the pin profile. Also I have painted the inside of my scope ring flat black to stop the glare.
From what I've been reading, different people have different experiences with which colors are better than others.  In my case red is the worst by far.  Green and yellow are better.  I'm going to start experimenting with ways to lessen pin brightness to see if that helps without causing problems in low light situations.

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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2017, 08:40:21 AM »
I've had this same problem for the last 2-3 years.  Readers improve the sight pin blurriness but the target becomes a huge blur and prescription glasses keep the target in focus while blurring the pins much worse than no glasses at all.  I've learned which part of the blurred pin is actually the pin (the bottom 1/3rd of the blur) so that's how I've (sort of) resolved this situation so far.  Certain lighting situations make the blurriness situation better or worse.

I'll be honest, if I knew for sure that this "clarifier" would resolve the problem I would install it on my bow regardless of the legality.

 :yeah: exactly

For whatever reason, my Red pin which happens to be my 60 Yard pin is the blurriest for me. The rest of my pins are green and aren't as blurry.


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Re: Old Eyes and Pin Blurring
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2017, 08:09:44 PM »
Run a number 1 or 2 clarifier, or decrease your peep aperture size.  This will eliminate halo pin, and bring pin into focus but may affect target objective due to size of aperture or fogging etc. of clarifier.  The only way I have totally eliminated this is to use a 0.015" blue fiber with an LP light.  Obviously not in a hunting application.  Best option is a clairifier and a different fiber size and color.

 


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