Chinook pass closed FYI

[Stein]

Norse Peak fire is now covering South King County with ash. Cars, yards and decks are covered with large particles of burned material. Red sun. You would think that a volcano was erupting or a nuclear winter is beginning.

In Port Angeles as well.

And Arlington, the color outside is very strange.

[lewy]

I was at crystal this morning for work, fire has settled down from yesterday. No structure damage yet

[jjness11]

Norse Peak fire is now covering South King County with ash. Cars, yards and decks are covered with large particles of burned material. Red sun. You would think that a volcano was erupting or a nuclear winter is beginning.

In Port Angeles as well.

And Arlington, the color outside is very strange.

 
I live in Arlington, but I think we are getting more from the Diamond Creek Fire which is north of Mazama. Not so much from the Norse Creek Fire.

[jackelope]

This is old news now probably, but I went 410 to 123 early sunday morning. Chinook was closed with the barricades up at the 123 junction. When I came back through around 3pm, the barricades were down and cars were driving through, but all the closed signs were still up.

 

[Russ McDonald]

0 structures damaged.  0 injuries. (as of 9am this morning at least).

Let's not complain quite yet, gents.  Fires will happen one way or another, and natural fires (especially in uninhabited areas) are the least of the evils.  You can gripe about the "let it burn" mentality on a forum if you want, but keep in mind there are 300+ guys working their asses off to protect any and all structures in the area.

Not complaining. I know quite a few guys on the fire lines. Just making an observation of Forest practice possibly gone wrong. Keep in mind jolly mnt is zero % contained. Not sure what they are rating the Naches fire at but it can't be much better. I wish everyone the best of luck and safety to all. I hope we can look back on this in a few years and say, man I'm glad we had that burn of 17.

Jolly Mt. fire is 20,975 and 0% containment https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/5496/

This is old news now probably, but I went 410 to 123 early sunday morning. Chinook was closed with the barricades up at the 123 junction. When I came back through around 3pm, the barricades were down and cars were driving through, but all the closed signs were still up.

 

I saw on the WA DOT app last night that they are closed now at the summit but I think they move it back down again.

[tjsr61]

https://caltopo.com/

Best free mapping tool I've come across.  Tons of layer options, including a "current fire activity" layer.  Not sure if it's MODIS exactly or something similar, but it has great up-to-date info.

Can you explain to me the  12-24hr, 24-48 hr *=hot and so forth legend on this map

I can try!  The color (red, yellow, etc.) corresponds to the length of time since the heat source was first measured.  The * indicates a measured temp above 100°F, the X indicates a measured temp below that.  I'm not entirely sure how the size of the circle is determined, but I'm sure it's meaningful in some way.

Thank you

[Don_D]

https://caltopo.com/

Best free mapping tool I've come across.  Tons of layer options, including a "current fire activity" layer.  Not sure if it's MODIS exactly or something similar, but it has great up-to-date info.

Thanks, the layers on that mapping tool are awesome.

[PlateauNDN]

Anybody go to the meeting in nile?

[Slamadoo]

I maintain that this fire is a good thing. Decades of logging suppression have turned our forests into tinder boxes. I understand you can't log wilderness, but the areas surrounding the NPW haven't been logged either.

[Boss .300 winmag]

I maintain that this fire is a good thing. Decades of logging suppression have turned our forests into tinder boxes. I understand you can't log wilderness, but the areas surrounding the NPW haven't been logged either.

 

I hope no homes/cabins are lost due to these fires. If they won't log, or due controlled burns this is what you get. It will improve the habitat greatly. 

[yakimanoob]

I maintain that this fire is a good thing. Decades of logging suppression have turned our forests into tinder boxes. I understand you can't log wilderness, but the areas surrounding the NPW haven't been logged either.

I do hope there are enough resources to protect the surrounding structures though.

[grundy53]

Norse Peak fire is now covering South King County with ash. Cars, yards and decks are covered with large particles of burned material. Red sun. You would think that a volcano was erupting or a nuclear winter is beginning.

In Port Angeles as well.

And Arlington, the color outside is very strange.

 
I live in Arlington, but I think we are getting more from the Diamond Creek Fire which is north of Mazama. Not so much from the Norse Creek Fire.

And the Jolly mountain fire.

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[Thefishguy77]

Logging is important and this burn is demonstrating what happens when you greatly reduce it in areas. That said logging practices need to improve. I have noticed a big difference between logging in the 80's and now. Seems some of the logging companies only want to do the minimum to get the maximum. That to me is bad stewardship.

Factor in that they halt in some cases and charge for access in others and I can see why they are so easy to hate. When the got those lands for a song and a dance maintaining public access was one of the few restrictions they had to do.

This is a much bigger problem than logging or not. It is a government cesspool problem. More government agencies more problems that can't get addressed properly.

Climbing off soapbox now.

It's frustrating to say the least


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[trophyhunt]

Agree!  It seems the clear cuts now days are a damn mess, impossible to walk through.  They should be able to pile up the debris and burn it like Idaho!

[timberfaller]

I'll stay off my soap box!  Posted it to many times to repeat it! 

I'll say this though,   some pretty ignorant statements on this thread

The best statement, "government cesspool problem"!!   Don't forget the Sierra Club, Bio-diversity group, and WHO and WHAT the USFS has become!!

Something to think about,  early fires this year,  had to have "roads" rebuilt to get access to them.

Research the Arizona fires from a somes years ago, WHAT occurred  that allowed "control" to take place???