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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #120 on: September 06, 2017, 01:07:59 PM »
The crosshatched perimeter in this is at 20k acres but the hots spots are current as of this morning. The other spots towards the top are near Blewett Pass, sawmill ridge fire, I think it's called.


Fire at the top of picture looks like the headwaters of the grean@blowout mountain
Called the Sawmill fire, it is in the watershed.

North end of Sawmill ridge towards lester
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #121 on: September 06, 2017, 01:31:20 PM »
Logging is important and this burn is demonstrating what happens when you greatly reduce it in areas. That said logging practices need to improve. I have noticed a big difference between logging in the 80's and now. Seems some of the logging companies only want to do the minimum to get the maximum. That to me is bad stewardship.

Factor in that they halt in some cases and charge for access in others and I can see why they are so easy to hate. When the got those lands for a song and a dance maintaining public access was one of the few restrictions they had to do.

This is a much bigger problem than logging or not. It is a government cesspool problem. More government agencies more problems that can't get addressed properly.

Climbing off soapbox now.

It's frustrating to say the least


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Just wondering: are you implying that we should log Wilderness areas??

Not necessarily wilderness areas. However if we are allowed to log around them then you have better access to them as well and having less chance of a fire spreading from them to national forests.  I believe controlled burns need to make a comeback if we can't get back to logging. And fast replants afterwards, not waiting years to replant.


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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #122 on: September 06, 2017, 01:34:05 PM »
Bob, I'm assuming you meant to say currently open?  Thanks guys.

Chinook pass is currently closed.


Chinook Pass is closed. It does suggest that you can still drive over Cayuse Pass on 410.
Last I heard yesterday evening Mt. Rainier park close 123 between Stevens canyon and 410. But that can change at a moments notice. If this is still up to date then 123 is closed.


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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #123 on: September 06, 2017, 01:46:35 PM »
Park website says 123 is currently open to thru traffic as does WSDOT


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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #124 on: September 06, 2017, 01:52:32 PM »
Highway 410 from Enumclaw to Cayuse Pass is open. Highway 123 from Cayuse Pass to highway 12 is open.
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #125 on: September 06, 2017, 01:55:40 PM »
Bob, I'm assuming you meant to say currently open?  Thanks guys.

Chinook pass is currently closed.


Chinook Pass is closed. It does suggest that you can still drive over Cayuse Pass on 410.
Last I heard yesterday evening Mt. Rainier park close 123 between Stevens canyon and 410. But that can change at a moments notice. If this is still up to date then 123 is closed.


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If I read it correctly this says 410 eastbound is closed at 123.  123 is still open according to the WSDOT app to.
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #126 on: September 06, 2017, 02:00:49 PM »
Not sure why there is so much confusion?  :dunno:


SR 410/Chinook Pass will remain closed through Wednesday night, Sept. 6 due to fire near the roadway. The closure points has extended just east of the SR 410/SR 123 junction to Bumping River Road. Bumping River Road is closed. Drivers cannot access Chinook Pass. A detour for SR 410 traffic is available via SR 123 and US 12 over White Pass.

 For updated information on the Norse Peak Fire and other fires in the state including evacuations, visit:
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/state/49/

 For road status near Mount Rainier National Park,visit:
https://www.nps.gov/mora/planyourvisit/road-status.htm

Cayuse Pass is open.


https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/passes/chinook-cayuse
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #127 on: September 06, 2017, 02:16:50 PM »
Bob, I'm assuming you meant to say currently open?  Thanks guys.

Chinook pass is currently closed.


Chinook Pass is closed. It does suggest that you can still drive over Cayuse Pass on 410.
Last I heard yesterday evening Mt. Rainier park close 123 between Stevens canyon and 410. But that can change at a moments notice. If this is still up to date then 123 is closed.


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According to the person I spoke with this morning at the park office, 410 is open to 123 and 123 is open to 12.  All trails off 123 and the park wilderness area north of Stevens Canyon are closed.  Nothing is expected to change for the foreseeable future. 

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #128 on: September 06, 2017, 02:29:40 PM »
Just a question maybe one of you can answer. Why is there 4 helicopters parked at Jefferson helipad , that are not flying ? Camped up there behind them last Thursday- Monday. No Helo left Thursday, Friday or Saturday. Sunday 1 left around 3:30 with no bucket for an hour , than another left with a bucket when the first returned. 5 minutes after it left a second one left with a bucket. 1 1/2 later both returned. Monday same deal .
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #129 on: September 06, 2017, 02:36:09 PM »
Smoke has everything socked in.  There is not way to see the ground to conduct bucket operations.  Boots on the ground can't see the helo and the helo can't see the boots on the ground.
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #130 on: September 06, 2017, 05:47:17 PM »
Smoke has everything socked in.  There is not way to see the ground to conduct bucket operations.  Boots on the ground can't see the helo and the helo can't see the boots on the ground.

Exactly what he said

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #131 on: September 06, 2017, 07:27:34 PM »
I heard the state is offering points back for a few units including WR
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #132 on: September 06, 2017, 07:44:13 PM »
I heard the state is offering points back for a few units including WR
I was going to say those people that have the tag aren't going to be happy for sure.  I am actually kind of happy I got a multi season elk tag now.  Early archery looks hosed.
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #133 on: September 07, 2017, 12:04:25 PM »
Just got an email from wdfw with the option to restore my points for my peaches ridge archery tag. Too heavily invested in this season so I think im going to take the gamble and hunt 336. Wonder how many tag holders decide to restore points, seems like awful short notice.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #134 on: September 07, 2017, 12:14:27 PM »
I guess it would depend on how many points you have.  I didn't have that many, so I would roll the dice with the conditions over trying to draw it again.

 


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