I've tried a few different recipes with deer and elk and about 40% pork shoulder mixed in. Most were store bought packs( LEM, Cabelas, etc) All were pretty good except for one I tried you used Beer mixed with meat. It was great for about a month( pulling out of freezer) or so then the flavor really took a dive. I have been using the premade Cabelas one for awhile now just for simplicity and it isn't that expensive compared to just buying the seasonings anyways.