Hot tent options??

[whacker1]

The guys joining me on this year's elk hunt use the Redcliff and like it. Not sure how much they're on this site, but will probably chime in if they see this thread.  If you are set on accommodating 3 guys, gear, an stove the 6 man tipi is 18sq ft bigger and a foot taller for more headroom.

I think the redcliff would be small for the 3rd guy to be included inside with the use of stove.  No gear, and it would be a different story.  I had a Nemo 4P before and it was perfect for 2 guys and gear, but no stove at 100 square feet.  That 132 would give room for the stove, or 3rd person, but tough for both stove and 3rd person.

[Magnum_Willys]

I have the seek 8 man with XL stove.   Fits 3,  4 in a pinch.  Wouldnt prefer 6 man for 3.

[jackelope]

Sorry to thread jack, but I'm curious if these stoves hold heat for very long at all?

[92xj]

I run a 12" lite outdoors.  Packed full and ripping I need to add fuel every 20-30 minutes.  From ripping red hot to cold to the touch (besides the very bottom where the coals are) 1.25hours max, maybe. No huge pieces of wood will fit to create that multi hour coal bed to last a long time.  Not meant for long burns, mainly hot burns, warm up the tent/tarp, dry clothes be warm getting into bag and then let you sleep system do it's job through the night, in the morning, fire the stove up while inside your bag, tent/tarp is plenty warm in 10 minutes, get out and of your thing.  I do have some North Idaho energy logs cut down to size that will fit in my stove.  The next time I burn it I am going to do a little testing to see hoe long I can produce heat without opening the door.

[Magnum_Willys]

Sorry to thread jack, but I'm curious if these stoves hold heat for very long at all?

Used my XL to heat a 20 ft alaknak in the snow couple weeks ago.  It keeps logs burning 2+ hours and coals to restart fire to 3 hours.   Thats medium banked down.

I would get up and restoke at midnite and 3 am.  I was pretty impressed.  Thats with 3” to 4”  x 12” logs.

[ian_padron]

A good tip for holding heat longer is to surround your stove with the biggest rocks you can find. Those puppies will hold heat way longer than the titanium. Just build a little wall around the stove with the rock, prevents you from accidentally melting sleeping bags and jackets as well.

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[kselkhunter]

A good tip for holding heat longer is to surround your stove with the biggest rocks you can find. Those puppies will hold heat way longer than the titanium. Just build a little wall around the stove with the rock, prevents you from accidentally melting sleeping bags and jackets as well.

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That's a great idea with the rocks.  I melted part of a jacket last year not realizing how hot the stove was and the jacket was too close.   

[2MANY]

And then man invented the wall tent.

[Magnum_Willys]

And then man invented the wall tent.

My 8 man teepee weighs 4# my wall tent without poles about 25# with poles at least
60#.   But with horses or road camps the wall tent or alaknak is way better. 

[dreamingbig]

I have the BCS Grande which is the precursor to the Redcliff.  You could fit 3 with a stove but two and gear fit better with a stove.  Here is a pic...  oh and yes a wall tent is nicer but you aren't getting one 7 -10 miles in without stock.  This one came in on my back.




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[2MANY]

I love the look and idea of these systems.
The only room for improvement would be increased burn time on the stoves.
Being warm and able to dry out is what extends a hunt.

Good luck to all this year.

[elkoholic]

I have the Luna 6 but do not run a stove. It would be tough to fit 3 guys with gear and a stove. 2 guys with gear would be perfect.

[Tbob]

So I called Seekoutside today to ask them about the difference between the Redcliff and the 6 man Tipi.. Dude assured me that the Redcliff would be perfect for 3 guys, packs and a stove.. 4 guys easy without a stove.. He said the 6 man tipi would be like the Taj Mahal for 3 dudes, a stove and gear..
    I think after all this great discussion I'm going to go with the Redcliff as its a bit lighter and easier to pitch than the 6 man tipi (per the the Seekoutside guy),  Like I said earlier it'll likely be used by me and my brother and a 3rd guy from time to time. So the lighter weight and easier pitch will suit me a little better in the long run I think. I'm okay with being a little cozy when the 3rd guy joins us for a hunt from time to time.. I'll let y'all know how it ends up going.. It'll be awhile though, as I'm headed to Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand for a few months of sun while all my WA friends enjoy the rainy winter.... Enjoy!
    Thanks for all the input here though! Definitely helped me out and actually changed up my plan of what to get. When spending almost a grand on a backcountry tent this place definitely helps! Thanks again!

[JimmyHoffa]

Where you set the tent up can change the temps quite a bit.  If it isn't going to be windy, I set up under healthy trees with a lot of canopy above.  Good for quite a bit of heat vs being out in a meadow, especially on a clear night.

[Tbob]

Good call JH! Thanks for the tip!