Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?

[yorketransport]

No.....took a week off to be sicker than a dog!!      Now on the mend and back to some research.  Pretty sure I am not going 100% custom at this point.  Now just need to put hands on rifles as I see them and see what feels good.  Wish they made the Savage in a stainless...I would buy the 300 win mag lr and put it on a chassis and call it good.   I have seen how they shoot and the cost is right (though this is not my primary concern).  I just really want a stainless rifle as it will be used in inclimate weather.

Why not buy a stainless Savage long action and just rebarrel it? Go pick up a pawn shop SS Savage in 30-06 for $4-500; swap out the trigger, bolt head and bolt handle; sell the factory parts (barrel, stock, bolt head); buy a prefit barrel from the maker or your choice for $450-600 for a top quality barrel.

I'd expect to put together a gun comparable to what you're looking at for about $1600 that I would expect to easily shoot under .5 MOA and likely closer to .3 MOA. I happen to like Savage actions, so custom actions don't offer me much unless I need something special. I'm focused more on function than form most of the time and I'm just not convinced that it's necessary to spend over $2500 to have an accurate 300 Win Mag.

[jmscon]

Northland shooter supply has stainless Remington 700 actions (.532 bolt face) for $425 and stainless hand lapped, match grade, Criterion barrels (for those actions) up to 30” (and pick your contour) at $340 in .300 wm, another $150-200 for a nut, nut wrench, action vice, and some go/no-go gauges.

Just needs glass and a stock

http://northlandshooterssupply.com/match-grade-barrels/criterion-remington-remage/

[Magnum_Willys]

Yep B23 you are right on that, I was ref stock barrel on 338-378. Mine matches my Lapua pushed hard even with 2” shorter barrel and without advantages of lapua brass.   

[Antlershed]

Northland shooter supply has stainless Remington 700 actions (.532 bolt face) for $425 and stainless hand lapped, match grade, Criterion barrels (for those actions) up to 30” (and pick your contour) at $340 in .300 wm, another $150-200 for a nut, nut wrench, action vice, and some go/no-go gauges.

Just needs glass and a stock

http://northlandshooterssupply.com/match-grade-barrels/criterion-remington-remage/

You can get the Rem 700 stainless actions with the Ultra Mag boot face for $368 from Buds.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/2388/remington_action_700_la_ss_300_ult_mag

[jrebel]

Couple more questions.....

1.  Anyone have experience or opinions on Montana rifle company's rifles?  Specifically the X2
2.  For long range shooting is a sporter barrel sufficient?  I have always thought a heavy barrel (usually fluted) was a better option....but guess I really don't know being I am new to the long(er) range shooting.
3.  What are you thoughts with a 30 Nosler.....looks ballistically very similar to the 300 win mag with a little shorter case. 

thanks

[bearpaw]

Couple more questions.....

1.  Anyone have experience or opinions on Montana rifle company's rifles?  Specifically the X2
2.  For long range shooting is a sporter barrel sufficient?  I have always thought a heavy barrel (usually fluted) was a better option....but guess I really don't know being I am new to the long(er) range shooting.
3.  What are you thoughts with a 30 Nosler.....looks ballistically very similar to the 300 win mag with a little shorter case. 

thanks

I can't remember exactly who told me, but I've been told the Montana Rifle Co builds excellent rifles!
I think you would be better off with a more common cartridge, pick a different big magnum, maybe a 300 ultra, it has excellent ballistics, affordable cartridges!

[Curly]

Couple more questions.....

1.  Anyone have experience or opinions on Montana rifle company's rifles?  Specifically the X2
2.  For long range shooting is a sporter barrel sufficient?  I have always thought a heavy barrel (usually fluted) was a better option....but guess I really don't know being I am new to the long(er) range shooting.
3.  What are you thoughts with a 30 Nosler.....looks ballistically very similar to the 300 win mag with a little shorter case. 

thanks

I have a MRC X2 in .243 Win.  Good rifle.  I like the action.  I like the Pre 64 style of action.  Probably better rifles out there though.  For your described use, I'd prefer to spend the money on a rifle with a 1/2" 100 yd group accuracy guarantee (which MRC does not have).

Others will have to answer 2 and 3.  (although, my opinion would be to stick with the win instead of nosler)

[jrebel]

Couple more questions.....

1.  Anyone have experience or opinions on Montana rifle company's rifles?  Specifically the X2
2.  For long range shooting is a sporter barrel sufficient?  I have always thought a heavy barrel (usually fluted) was a better option....but guess I really don't know being I am new to the long(er) range shooting.
3.  What are you thoughts with a 30 Nosler.....looks ballistically very similar to the 300 win mag with a little shorter case. 

thanks

I can't remember exactly who told me, but I've been told the Montana Rifle Co builds excellent rifles!
I think you would be better off with a more common cartridge, pick a different big magnum, maybe a 300 ultra, it has excellent ballistics, affordable cartridges!

Interesting you say 300 ultra.....the two they had in stock today that I got to fondle were 30 nosler and 300 ultra.  Maybe I will have to look more into the ultra mag.   

[bearpaw]

Couple more questions.....

1.  Anyone have experience or opinions on Montana rifle company's rifles?  Specifically the X2
2.  For long range shooting is a sporter barrel sufficient?  I have always thought a heavy barrel (usually fluted) was a better option....but guess I really don't know being I am new to the long(er) range shooting.
3.  What are you thoughts with a 30 Nosler.....looks ballistically very similar to the 300 win mag with a little shorter case. 

thanks

I have a MRC X2 in .243 Win.  Good rifle.  I like the action.  I like the Pre 64 style of action.  Probably better rifles out there though.  For your described use, I'd prefer to spend the money on a rifle with a 1/2" 100 yd group accuracy guarantee (which MRC does not have).

Others will have to answer 2 and 3.  (although, my opinion would be to stick with the win instead of nosler)

Before I bought my last Weatherby I almost bought a Fierce, they have a 1/2" guarantee and are pretty nice feeling rifles. Sportsman Warehouse carries Fierce now! If you want the very best accuracy you might want to get a gun built! If you want to carry the gun all over the mountains you will have to consider the weight of a heavy barrel verses the accuracy you want/need?

Couple more questions.....

1.  Anyone have experience or opinions on Montana rifle company's rifles?  Specifically the X2
2.  For long range shooting is a sporter barrel sufficient?  I have always thought a heavy barrel (usually fluted) was a better option....but guess I really don't know being I am new to the long(er) range shooting.
3.  What are you thoughts with a 30 Nosler.....looks ballistically very similar to the 300 win mag with a little shorter case. 

thanks

I can't remember exactly who told me, but I've been told the Montana Rifle Co builds excellent rifles!
I think you would be better off with a more common cartridge, pick a different big magnum, maybe a 300 ultra, it has excellent ballistics, affordable cartridges!

Interesting you say 300 ultra.....the two they had in stock today that I got to fondle were 30 nosler and 300 ultra.  Maybe I will have to look more into the ultra mag.   

You can buy 300 utra ammo almost anywhere now, much easier to find, and I think better ballistics! 

[CAMPMEAT]

Buy freezerfull's gun and be done with it Dale. AR10 6.5 Creedmoor

[CarbonHunter]

Couple more questions.....

1.  Anyone have experience or opinions on Montana rifle company's rifles?  Specifically the X2
2.  For long range shooting is a sporter barrel sufficient?  I have always thought a heavy barrel (usually fluted) was a better option....but guess I really don't know being I am new to the long(er) range shooting.
3.  What are you thoughts with a 30 Nosler.....looks ballistically very similar to the 300 win mag with a little shorter case. 

thanks

I can't remember exactly who told me, but I've been told the Montana Rifle Co builds excellent rifles!
I think you would be better off with a more common cartridge, pick a different big magnum, maybe a 300 ultra, it has excellent ballistics, affordable cartridges!

Interesting you say 300 ultra.....the two they had in stock today that I got to fondle were 30 nosler and 300 ultra.  Maybe I will have to look more into the ultra mag.   

How’s your research on the 30 Nosler vs 300 RUM coming?  I’m thinking of getting a custom and am trying to decide on a caliber.  My research is leading me to believe I can get near 300 RUM results with less powder and recoil using the 30 Nosler.

Does anyone else have experience with these 2 calibers?

[jrebel]

Couple more questions.....

1.  Anyone have experience or opinions on Montana rifle company's rifles?  Specifically the X2
2.  For long range shooting is a sporter barrel sufficient?  I have always thought a heavy barrel (usually fluted) was a better option....but guess I really don't know being I am new to the long(er) range shooting.
3.  What are you thoughts with a 30 Nosler.....looks ballistically very similar to the 300 win mag with a little shorter case. 

thanks

I can't remember exactly who told me, but I've been told the Montana Rifle Co builds excellent rifles!
I think you would be better off with a more common cartridge, pick a different big magnum, maybe a 300 ultra, it has excellent ballistics, affordable cartridges!

Interesting you say 300 ultra.....the two they had in stock today that I got to fondle were 30 nosler and 300 ultra.  Maybe I will have to look more into the ultra mag.   

How’s your research on the 30 Nosler vs 300 RUM coming?  I’m thinking of getting a custom and am trying to decide on a caliber.  My research is leading me to believe I can get near 300 RUM results with less powder and recoil using the 30 Nosler.

Does anyone else have experience with these 2 calibers?

The 30 nosler looks to be almost identical to the 300 win mag.  You just get a shorter fatter case.  The RUM  and 30 nosler are apples to oranges. 

Now the 300 ultra mag and weatherby mag are similar. 

[Magnum_Willys]

Moving up to some big magnums now - mandatory brake . 

[carpsniperg2]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

[jrebel]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

Even with the heavy bullets?  210 grain