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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2009, 08:50:21 PM »
I have also heard several times that the nap expandables were going to be approved by wdfw, but i won't change from my wac'em broad heads.  Blew through my bull at 64 yards broadside high in the lungs, and my shot his last two bulls through the chest at 4 and 6 yards, no failure.

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2009, 06:32:57 AM »
They took out the term "mechanical", they are legal now.


g. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with
a broadhead blade unless the broadhead
is unbarbed and completely closed at
the back end of the blade or blades by
a smooth, unbroken surface starting at
maximum blade width forming a smooth
line toward the feather end of the shaft and
such line does not angle toward the point.

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2009, 06:53:31 AM »
They took out the term "mechanical", they are legal now.


g. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with
a broadhead blade unless the broadhead
is unbarbed and completely closed at
the back end of the blade or blades by
a smooth, unbroken surface starting at
maximum blade width forming a smooth
line toward the feather end of the shaft and
such line does not angle toward the point.


They may have deleted the word "mechanical"  but the description of what broadhead is legal eliminates them from the legal category,  as far as I can tell.

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2009, 07:11:01 AM »
Sent a letter to the wildlife commission the other day questioning why Washington doesn't allow expandable broadheads....no reply as yet. I have a 13 yo just starting to bowhunt and they seem much safer.

Anything I am missing? anyone know why they are not allowed?

What are your thoughts...for or against

The reason is that expandable broadheads act like barbed hooks. Once they expand, they don't/won't pull out without doing further irrrepairable damage to the animal. In essence they are inhumane. What might bo only a minor wound couls result in death where the animal may survive when using the proper equipment.

That is the reason...
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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2009, 07:42:04 AM »
They took out the term "mechanical", they are legal now.


g. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with
a broadhead blade unless the broadhead
is unbarbed and completely closed at
the back end of the blade or blades by
a smooth, unbroken surface starting at
maximum blade width forming a smooth
line toward the feather end of the shaft and
such line does not angle toward the point.

I saw that last night.  From the way I read it, it seems that they are legal for small game such as turkey's.  There was some great debate on another thread and I don't want to start another if they were legal before or not.  WDFW was inconsistent with their answer when I called about them, but it now specifically says "big game animals".




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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2009, 07:51:32 AM »
I care less about the fixed or expandable issue than I do about having folks driving the ship that don't know what the hell they are talking about. Every year it seems to be one Bozo descision after another.

Okay, I'm out.

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2009, 07:50:58 PM »
 :yeah:   I drew a multi-season tag and couldn't hunt with my bow during muzzleloader but could during rifle  :bash:
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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2009, 05:01:18 PM »
I sent a email to the game dept. about weather (mech ) are legal now and here is there reply.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ( Thank you for your recent email to Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.  Your email has been referred to me for a response.

 

Mechanical broadheads remain unlawful for big game hunting in Washington State.)  I hope this will help clear up the new rule.


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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2009, 05:05:25 PM »
I believe the technical part which would get expandible is that they tend to be "barbed" when they are deployed.

I don't think they will change this part about the broadhead regulation (barbed). That is an opinion and I only base it upon my next sentence. I believe that it might have been put in place because unbarbed broadheads are more likely to work their way out of an animal and therefore it might be more likely for the animal to survive and recover from with less than lethal hits.

They are legal for turkeys.

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2009, 08:45:25 PM »
Does this mean I can hunt grouse, rabbits and other small game with a judo tip?

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2009, 08:52:58 PM »
yes, and that judo does wonders on grouse

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2009, 09:01:33 PM »
yes, and that judo does wonders on grouse

We use to use them when I was a kid they worked awesome.  I havnt shot at a grouse or rabbit in a long time with my bow cause I didnt want to waist an arrow or loose it in the grass or dirt.  Judo's kill em dead but dont into the ground and grab hold of the brush and grass.  Alot of time they will stand your arrow right up so its easy to find.

Oh yeah they destroy opossums too.

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 02:02:44 PM »
Kain,

Yes, any kind of point is legal for grouse, rabbits, squirrels, etc. I learned the hard way to only aim for the head of a grouse if shooting a judo because it'll penetrate (rather than bludgeon, like a blunt will) so the bird can take to the wing and sail off with the arrow in it. Without snow it's tough to blood trail a sailing grouse.
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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2009, 11:22:35 AM »
I use them in Maryland and they work great,

The proof is in the picture. thats awesome! its always great to see what it does instead of hearing about it. great shot by the way!

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Re: Expandable Broadheads
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2009, 03:57:43 PM »
Thanks, I found the arrow 20 yards behind where I shot the doe and she only ran 30 yards and piled up. I used muzzy 100 three blades broadheads 1 time, lost a doe I shot at eight feet, the shot was right behind the front right shoulder and it only went in about 6 inches, I looked for her for the rest of the day and into the next day, there was no blood at all. Went out the enxt day with mechs and have never lost a deer with them.
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