2018-2020 Hunting Proposals Out for Comment

[bearpaw]

my moose comments:

Disease and wolves are negatively impacting our moose herds in the northeast, it's a good idea to make the moose permits bulls only to save the cows that reproduce. I strongly suggest eliminating all cow harvest in all units experiencing wolf predation on the moose herd.

[Rainier10]

I would prefer proper predator management.  Bear, cougar and wolf populations are all way too high.  Expand bear seasons, make spring bear OTC, allow cougar hunting year round and start a wolf season.


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Dilly dilly.   Totally agree.

[goldenhtr]

Looks like I will be spending my money for out of state tags from now on, pretty much done with this state.....

I bet a lot of guys will be doing that.  Taking the cow elk away from the early archery hunters in the bumping and nile is complete BS.  And I'm pretty sure that they aren't giving out 74 cow moose tags in mt Spokane, that has to be a typo.

Look at unit 175, we hunted it archery last year because it was spike or anterless elk. No one we talked to all week had anything down. But this year it is spike only?? And 3 cow draw tags. WOW!

What's up with Mt. Spokane 2nd deer?? ALL ANTERLESS! Are there does running all over the place??
Moderen- 350 tags
MZ - 125
Archery- 100
You would think that there is a doe on every corner.

[JoeE]

Also, no more buying OIL points for your kids. Proposal states you must complete hunters education before you can buy an application for the OIL’s.

Where do you see the part about this being removed? I can’t find it.

[Dhoey07]

Looks like I will be spending my money for out of state tags from now on, pretty much done with this state.....

I bet a lot of guys will be doing that.  Taking the cow elk away from the early archery hunters in the bumping and nile is complete BS.  And I'm pretty sure that they aren't giving out 74 cow moose tags in mt Spokane, that has to be a typo.

Look at unit 175, we hunted it archery last year because it was spike or anterless elk. No one we talked to all week had anything down. But this year it is spike only?? And 3 cow draw tags. WOW!

What's up with Mt. Spokane 2nd deer?? ALL ANTERLESS! Are there does running all over the place??
Moderen- 350 tags
MZ - 125
Archery- 100
You would think that there is a doe on every corner.

On private property there is.  On public land, there are a good number of deer as well.   

[Southpole]

Looks like I will be spending my money for out of state tags from now on, pretty much done with this state.....

I bet a lot of guys will be doing that.  Taking the cow elk away from the early archery hunters in the bumping and nile is complete BS.  And I'm pretty sure that they aren't giving out 74 cow moose tags in mt Spokane, that has to be a typo.

Look at unit 175, we hunted it archery last year because it was spike or anterless elk. No one we talked to all week had anything down. But this year it is spike only?? And 3 cow draw tags. WOW!

What's up with Mt. Spokane 2nd deer?? ALL ANTERLESS! Are there does running all over the place??
Moderen- 350 tags
MZ - 125
Archery- 100
You would think that there is a doe on every corner.

On private property there is.  On public land, there are a good number of deer as well.   

Hasn't all 2nd deer permits been antlerless?

[goldenhtr]

Looks like I will be spending my money for out of state tags from now on, pretty much done with this state.....

I bet a lot of guys will be doing that.  Taking the cow elk away from the early archery hunters in the bumping and nile is complete BS.  And I'm pretty sure that they aren't giving out 74 cow moose tags in mt Spokane, that has to be a typo.

Look at unit 175, we hunted it archery last year because it was spike or anterless elk. No one we talked to all week had anything down. But this year it is spike only?? And 3 cow draw tags. WOW!

What's up with Mt. Spokane 2nd deer?? ALL ANTERLESS! Are there does running all over the place??
Moderen- 350 tags
MZ - 125
Archery- 100
You would think that there is a doe on every corner.

On private property there is.  On public land, there are a good number of deer as well.   

Hasn't all 2nd deer permits been antlerless?

Yes they are. My point is everyone on the NE were crying about the last few bad winters and CWD and whatever else they could for the low deer numbers. Yet they have as of now looks like are trying to thin the herd. Just seems like alot of permits.

[hunter399]

Looks like I will be spending my money for out of state tags from now on, pretty much done with this state.....

I bet a lot of guys will be doing that.  Taking the cow elk away from the early archery hunters in the bumping and nile is complete BS.  And I'm pretty sure that they aren't giving out 74 cow moose tags in mt Spokane, that has to be a typo.

Look at unit 175, we hunted it archery last year because it was spike or anterless elk. No one we talked to all week had anything down. But this year it is spike only?? And 3 cow draw tags. WOW!

What's up with Mt. Spokane 2nd deer?? ALL ANTERLESS! Are there does running all over the place??
Moderen- 350 tags
MZ - 125
Archery- 100
You would think that there is a doe on every corner.

On private property there is.  On public land, there are a good number of deer as well.   

Hasn't all 2nd deer permits been antlerless?

Yes they are. My point is everyone on the NE were crying about the last few bad winters and CWD and whatever else they could for the low deer numbers. Yet they have as of now looks like are trying to thin the herd. Just seems like alot of permits.

There has always been a large number of permits around spokane,along with season,people complain about deer more,hit by cars,more people to buy and sell tags,i don't know.

[Antlershed]

Also, no more buying OIL points for your kids. Proposal states you must complete hunters education before you can buy an application for the OIL’s.

Where do you see the part about this being removed? I can’t find it.

Section 2b

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/wac/220-412-080.pdf

[JimmyHoffa]

Looks like I will be spending my money for out of state tags from now on, pretty much done with this state.....

I bet a lot of guys will be doing that.  Taking the cow elk away from the early archery hunters in the bumping and nile is complete BS.  And I'm pretty sure that they aren't giving out 74 cow moose tags in mt Spokane, that has to be a typo.

Look at unit 175, we hunted it archery last year because it was spike or anterless elk. No one we talked to all week had anything down. But this year it is spike only?? And 3 cow draw tags. WOW!

What's up with Mt. Spokane 2nd deer?? ALL ANTERLESS! Are there does running all over the place??
Moderen- 350 tags
MZ - 125
Archery- 100
You would think that there is a doe on every corner.

On private property there is.  On public land, there are a good number of deer as well.   

Hasn't all 2nd deer permits been antlerless?

Yes they are. My point is everyone on the NE were crying about the last few bad winters and CWD and whatever else they could for the low deer numbers. Yet they have as of now looks like are trying to thin the herd. Just seems like alot of permits.

There has always been a large number of permits around spokane,along with season,people complain about deer more,hit by cars,more people to buy and sell tags,i don't know.

Yeah, agree.  Urban herds probably do skew perceptions quite significantly.  You can see tons of does running around in yards, but few deer in the hills.  When WDFW crunches the numbers they come up with big growing herds.  But it doesn't show that most are basically just lawn ornament pests.

[jamesfromseattle]

Whats up with the Nooksack? it says TBD does that mean they are going to to cut them? The region four quality Deer draw is better with the extended dates a four day season is just too short for a "quality" hunt in my book and why I have not put in for the hunt even though it is in my back yard. 

Looks like Sauk quality buck is 14 days long and Stilly is 19 days long with 2 more tags added.

I'm guessing they expect the hunting to be a little slower earlier in the month?  That way the effects of the longer season essentially come out in the wash?

[Mr Mykiss]

At least there’s an effort to eliminate all deer from the units surrounding Tricities...

[pd]

At least there’s an effort to eliminate all deer from the units surrounding Tricities...

I don't understand.  Please explain.

[Southpole]

Whats up with the Nooksack? it says TBD does that mean they are going to to cut them? The region four quality Deer draw is better with the extended dates a four day season is just too short for a "quality" hunt in my book and why I have not put in for the hunt even though it is in my back yard. 

Looks like Sauk quality buck is 14 days long and Stilly is 19 days long with 2 more tags added.

I'm guessing they expect the hunting to be a little slower earlier in the month?  That way the effects of the longer season essentially come out in the wash?

I guess what I was pointing out is that the late quality buck for those units are 14 and 19 days long not 4 days like RB thought. I think it's of a better advantage for those permits to start Nov. 1 instead of the middle of Nov. Like it has in the past. The pre rut starts the last week of October then if a guy draws a permit then they get the first 2 weeks of November to hunt the heat of the rut instead of when it's pretty cooled off late November.

[RB]

Whats up with the Nooksack? it says TBD does that mean they are going to to cut them? The region four quality Deer draw is better with the extended dates a four day season is just too short for a "quality" hunt in my book and why I have not put in for the hunt even though it is in my back yard. 

Looks like Sauk quality buck is 14 days long and Stilly is 19 days long with 2 more tags added.

  So much yeah that, I always thought it was ridiculous that it was a "Quality" tag when it amounted to just the regular four days of late Buck we used to have. I might actually put in for it now since it will be a true rut hunt and have several week days to choose from!

I'm guessing they expect the hunting to be a little slower earlier in the month?  That way the effects of the longer season essentially come out in the wash?

I guess what I was pointing out is that the late quality buck for those units are 14 and 19 days long not 4 days like RB thought. I think it's of a better advantage for those permits to start Nov. 1 instead of the middle of Nov. Like it has in the past. The pre rut starts the last week of October then if a guy draws a permit then they get the first 2 weeks of November to hunt the heat of the rut instead of when it's pretty cooled off late November.