US Forest Servce Director Resigns After Sexual Misconduct Allegations

[olyguy79]

When a post start with "... is a Trump appointee" I question the intent of the post.

Well he is isn't he?

Obama's USFS Director stayed on until Tooke was appointed late last summer. All the other Obama land management appointees left on inauguration day.

So obama let this fester, while you said nothing.  Now that it is being cleaned up under Trump, it is a problem?

I guess Obama, GW Bush, Clinton, HW Bush, and Reagan did too as he was hired in 1980. 

[Fl0und3rz]

When a post start with "... is a Trump appointee" I question the intent of the post.

The post was clearly meant to trash Trump even though this USFS employee was actually ousted during the Trump Administration after years of working during other administrations? I agree with the comment that this is a societal thing, look at all the sicko's we have right here in WA, a democratic stronghold. I really don't think you can blame Trump anymore than you can blame Inslee for the actions of the mayor of Seattle or the sex perverts in WDFW!

He wasn't "ousted" at all.

He was actually promoted by Trump, then resigned not fired.

Did the Trump admin know about the claims prior to his appointment? Who knows. But anytime a political appointee resigns/fired/etc it's common news sense to say who appointed him. In fact the article mentions he was by Trump's Sec of Agriculture. Can't blame bigtex on this one.

The obvious intent of the post is to malign Trump with guilt by association.  We all do it.  There's no reason to hide it.  The bigger concern I have is why was this allowed for so long, and how was it not more widely known before Trump appointed him.  Is this the job we are paying these people for, to play grab %&*, intimidate fellow employees, and cover it up so they can advance?

Sure it is part of a larger societal thing, but that is no reason to ask these questions.  It should be a no brainer.

[Fl0und3rz]

When a post start with "... is a Trump appointee" I question the intent of the post.

Well he is isn't he?

Obama's USFS Director stayed on until Tooke was appointed late last summer. All the other Obama land management appointees left on inauguration day.

So obama let this fester, while you said nothing.  Now that it is being cleaned up under Trump, it is a problem?

This may be shocking but I don't know of every government employee's background issues.

I've posted posts that make every administration look bad and good, but apparently you cant say anything negative about a Trump appointee on here. 

Sure you can.  But by your own admission, you cannot attribute knowledge or guilt to a guy for every employee, especially when it appears that there is a systematic problem of covering up an employee's or several employees' misconduct, well before the guy even takes the job. 

[olyguy79]

If this was 2010 and Tooke was an Obama appointee would everyone be upset that Bigtex mentioned he was Obama appointee? I highly doubt it.

[bearpaw]

If this was 2010 and Tooke was an Obama appointee would everyone be upset that Bigtex mentioned he was Obama appointee? I highly doubt it.

I'll repeat this....

The post was clearly meant to trash Trump even though this USFS employee was actually ousted during the Trump Administration after years of working during other administrations? I agree with the comment that this is a societal thing, look at all the sicko's we have right here in WA, a democratic stronghold. I really don't think you can blame Trump anymore than you can blame Inslee for the actions of the mayor of Seattle or the sex perverts in WDFW!

[olyguy79]

If this was 2010 and Tooke was an Obama appointee would everyone be upset that Bigtex mentioned he was Obama appointee? I highly doubt it.

I'll repeat this....

The post was clearly meant to trash Trump even though this USFS employee was actually ousted during the Trump Administration after years of working during other administrations? I agree with the comment that this is a societal thing, look at all the sicko's we have right here in WA, a democratic stronghold. I really don't think you can blame Trump anymore than you can blame Inslee for the actions of the mayor of Seattle or the sex perverts in WDFW!

Did Bigtex, or anyone actually blame Trump?

[Fl0und3rz]

If this was 2010 and Tooke was an Obama appointee would everyone be upset that Bigtex mentioned he was Obama appointee? I highly doubt it.

The obvious intent of the post is to malign Trump with guilt by association.  We all do it.  There's no reason to hide it.

 

[olyguy79]

Apparently we need a new forum rule:

1- You shall not mention Trump with anything negative as it is assumed to be aligned with the Trump Administration

[Fl0und3rz]

No new rules necessary.  If you're going to make a political post.  You should consider putting it in the proper category, off-topics.


The op could have made a newsworthy post about outdoor agencies without making it political.  He chose not to. 

[olyguy79]

No new rules necessary.  If you're going to make a political post.  You should consider putting it in the proper category, off-topics.


The op could have made a newsworthy post about outdoor agencies without making it political.  He chose not to.

The flipping article mentioned he was an appointee!!

[bearpaw]

If this was 2010 and Tooke was an Obama appointee would everyone be upset that Bigtex mentioned he was Obama appointee? I highly doubt it.

I'll repeat this....

The post was clearly meant to trash Trump even though this USFS employee was actually ousted during the Trump Administration after years of working during other administrations? I agree with the comment that this is a societal thing, look at all the sicko's we have right here in WA, a democratic stronghold. I really don't think you can blame Trump anymore than you can blame Inslee for the actions of the mayor of Seattle or the sex perverts in WDFW!

Did Bigtex, or anyone actually blame Trump?

Yes, it appears he did.
The first line of his post comments about Trump, when you look at the link that comment is nonexistent in  the sotry. It appears to be the opinion of bigtex!

Tooke is a Trump appointee and has been the USFS Chief/Director since September

[olyguy79]

If this was 2010 and Tooke was an Obama appointee would everyone be upset that Bigtex mentioned he was Obama appointee? I highly doubt it.

I'll repeat this....

The post was clearly meant to trash Trump even though this USFS employee was actually ousted during the Trump Administration after years of working during other administrations? I agree with the comment that this is a societal thing, look at all the sicko's we have right here in WA, a democratic stronghold. I really don't think you can blame Trump anymore than you can blame Inslee for the actions of the mayor of Seattle or the sex perverts in WDFW!

Did Bigtex, or anyone actually blame Trump?

Yes, it appears he did.
The first line of his post comments about Trump, when you look at the link that comment is nonexistent in  the sotry. It appears to be the opinion of bigtex!

Tooke is a Trump appointee and has been the USFS Chief/Director since September

From the article:
"Tooke was appointed as Forest Service chief by Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue on August 21, 2017."

The Secretaries choose candidates and the Trump admin approves them.

Apparently you missed that sentence

[Fl0und3rz]

No new rules necessary.  If you're going to make a political post.  You should consider putting it in the proper category, off-topics.


The op could have made a newsworthy post about outdoor agencies without making it political.  He chose not to.

The flipping article mentioned he was an appointee!!

Twenty words first uttered by OP was assigning blame to Trump, twice.  If he did not want to make it a political topic, why bother?

[bearpaw]

If this was 2010 and Tooke was an Obama appointee would everyone be upset that Bigtex mentioned he was Obama appointee? I highly doubt it.

I'll repeat this....

The post was clearly meant to trash Trump even though this USFS employee was actually ousted during the Trump Administration after years of working during other administrations? I agree with the comment that this is a societal thing, look at all the sicko's we have right here in WA, a democratic stronghold. I really don't think you can blame Trump anymore than you can blame Inslee for the actions of the mayor of Seattle or the sex perverts in WDFW!

Did Bigtex, or anyone actually blame Trump?

Yes, it appears he did.
The first line of his post comments about Trump, when you look at the link that comment is nonexistent in  the sotry. It appears to be the opinion of bigtex!

Tooke is a Trump appointee and has been the USFS Chief/Director since September

From the article:
"Tooke was appointed as Forest Service chief by Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue on August 21, 2017."

The Secretaries choose candidates and the Trump admin approves them.

Apparently you missed that sentence

I saw that, it's right in the story. But that doesn't change the fact that it appears bigtex wrote the first line himself.
I really don't care if you guys like or dislike Trump, but why try to avoid the truth! 

[jackelope]

If this was 2010 and Tooke was an Obama appointee would everyone be upset that Bigtex mentioned he was Obama appointee? I highly doubt it.

I'll repeat this....

The post was clearly meant to trash Trump even though this USFS employee was actually ousted during the Trump Administration after years of working during other administrations? I agree with the comment that this is a societal thing, look at all the sicko's we have right here in WA, a democratic stronghold. I really don't think you can blame Trump anymore than you can blame Inslee for the actions of the mayor of Seattle or the sex perverts in WDFW!

Did Bigtex, or anyone actually blame Trump?

Yes, it appears he did.
The first line of his post comments about Trump, when you look at the link that comment is nonexistent in  the sotry. It appears to be the opinion of bigtex!

Tooke is a Trump appointee and has been the USFS Chief/Director since September

Simply looks like a statement to me. I'm just a guy who doesn't participate in much political talk on the forum, but all he said was that he was appointed by Trump and has been in his role since September. Doesn't seem like anything other than a statement of fact to me, but like I said, I normally don't get into politics on here, so what do I know.....