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I got a Specialized Fuse, got a few questions
« on: March 18, 2018, 07:08:47 PM »
Found one on sale, brand new.

Fuse 6 fattie 29

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/fuse-6fattie-29/p/129260?color=240179-129260

$950 retail,  $760 otd

I'm not a bike guy but I want to use it to hunt behind gates and such, lot of areas will have soft roads in the spring and loose gravel in the fall.  This bike is half way between a real fatty 4.5 inch wide tire and regular mountain bike with a 3 inch tire.  Hydraulic brakes and disks,  hard tail with front suspension I can adjust hard almost locked out. 

Should be good for a trailer and hunting


any better options besides used in this price?
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2018, 07:24:21 PM »
Looks sweet.  You could always buy those tires if you found a bike you liked that wasn't 27.5x3.0.  Most forks will fit a slightly wider tire like that.  Or buy a Fatty and get smaller tires then you have every option available to you.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2018, 08:07:55 PM »
I'm no expert, but most regular mountain bikes won't fit a tire larger than 2.4" because of frame width.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2018, 08:20:38 PM »
Looks like a good bike for your stated purpose. I wouldn't want too fat of tires anyway for the longerrides

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2018, 11:23:35 PM »
I might change the seat out, I had a bad experience with those skinny seats once when the "boys" went to sleep on me, it was like waking up with a dead arm in the morning then that intense tingling sensation sets in and you can't hardly stand it...but in the "boys"

It was miserable, but I made a few kids since then so no permanent damage done. 

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2018, 11:26:59 PM »
Oh gawd! It's a disorder!

http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(04)00562-7/fulltext

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2018, 11:28:29 PM »
Oh this is bad

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The reported incidence of bicycling related urogenital symptoms varies considerably. The most common bicycling associated urogenital problems are nerve entrapment syndromes presenting as genitalia numbness, which is reported in 50–91% of the cyclists, followed by erectile dysfunction reported in 13–24%. Other less common symptoms include priapism, penile thrombosis, infertility, hematuria, torsion of spermatic cord, prostatitis, perineal nodular induration and elevated serum PSA, which are reported only sporadically.

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4.5. Penile blood flow during cycling
Arterial insufficiency is another possible cause of genital numbness and impotence [19. Cutaneous penile oxygen pressure, which is believed to correlate with penile blood flow, decreases significantly during cycling [[9], [20], [21], [22]]. The extent of the decline in blood flow was correlated with the cycling position and the type of the saddle. Cycling in reclining position, in which the perineum is not compressed, did not alter penile perfusion. Conversely, cycling in the upright-seated position compresses the pudendal arteries in the perineum and consequently decreased penile blood flow by approximately 70% [21. Standing up while cycling improved penile oxygenation back to its normal level before cycling [20. Although cycling in the seated position invariably compromised penile perfusion, the type of the saddle significantly affected its extent. An ergonomic wide saddle with absent nose provided the maximum protection against penile hypoperfusion (20.3% decrease in comparison to 82.4% using a standard narrow saddle) [22. Similarly, Broderick reported that sitting on a bike saddle decreases penile blood flow following intracavernous injection of PGE1 [23. More recently, Jeong et al., employed an investigational, more accurate laser Doppler flowmetry technique, determined the effect of bicycle saddle shape, (either a narrow unpadded or wide unpadded saddle), on penile blood flow and concluded that the shape of the bicycle saddle clearly affects penile blood flow as cycling on the narrow saddle caused more prominent decline in penile blood flow [24. Hypoxemia of the penis subsequently causes corporal connective tissue synthesis, apoptosis of trabecular smooth muscle cells and penile fibrosis which are induced by the synthesis of transforming growth factor-beta 1. The loss of trabecular erectile tissue along with deposition of connective tissue result in impaired penile expandability which may cause permanent ED due to veno-occlusive dysfunction
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2018, 11:35:05 PM »
OK, so get a big fat gel seat and stand up a lot


got it  :tup:

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2018, 12:03:09 AM »
Looks like a sweet bike! Go for it!
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2018, 12:03:51 AM »
maybe i should have rode a bike more after having my twins than letting dr snip fix me without enough numbing. or maybe not...thats a lot of not good stuff.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2018, 06:42:30 AM »
If bicycle riding increases limp-manhood by 13-24%, you all can keep the mountain bikes...I'll walk!

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2018, 06:51:10 AM »
How much more does a fat tired bike weigh compared to a more normal cross country bike?

When I biked all the time i had no problems with my main vein. Of course I wore bike shorts. I always read that the guys who were most likely to have problems were the ones who went on daily 2 hr rides. I was more of a 45 minute sprint kind of guy.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2018, 08:22:47 AM »
I think guys in hunting clothing, peddling down a road looking for game and doing a lot of sitting would be prone to this so I posted it, it's my PSA.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2018, 08:34:21 AM »
For what you are describing as intended purpose I think you would be happy with that setup.  This past season was my first with a "fatty" and it worked very well. IMO the loss of efficiency was more than made up for, in comfort, versatility, and stability under load.

Get a tire pump and don't be afraid to use it. Have fun :tup:

As far as sitting and riding the majority of areas I hunt, I am standing and climbing,  or sitting and flying :chuckle: overall the twins don't get a lot of seat time. :chuckle:

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2018, 09:20:01 AM »
Re: the seat vs. your manhood.

I used to do a lot of biking - both road and mtn.  Seat fit is extremely important if you want to make babies in the future, or practice making babies. Or just not have pain when you pee.  But bigger isn't always better.  And often too much padding is worse than too little. 

Mainly what to look for with a seat is one that fits the width of your 'sit bones' (the two boney protrusions from your pelvis/hips that are on either side of your, well, taint).  You want sit bones to bear virtually 100% of your weight.    But you don't want it to be any wider than needed because it will interfere with peddling and you'll end up saddle sore. But if the seat is too narrow, your sit bones won't bear the weight and you'll end up with reproductive problems. Also if there is too much padding it can cause chaffing, and if there is really too much padding it will distribute too much weight to the area between your sit bones.

Years ago I lived on the east coast and there was a local bike shop that had demo seats you could borrow for 24 hours.  I tried out 4 or 5 before finding one that fit.  It is actually pretty firm, but it is just the right width.  I still use that same seat, 15 years later.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2018, 09:31:44 AM »
The above is my experience, as well, but with less mountain biking.  And they make some nice cargo shorts style padded shorts, these days, so I wouldn't avoid the padded shorts, just because of fashion sense.

I am working more towards biking/hunting, and I think packing my hunting clothes and riding in my riding clothes will work best, for me, as I tend to sweat at a brisk walking pace, and I would be soaked in anything resembling decent hunting clothing.


The OP listed bike would seem like a good start for the intended purpose, although consider getting fitted for a seat, if you don't know what to look for.


Biking arm and leg covers made of a thin neoprene are a good consideration if you are thinking about biking the backwoods in shorts and breathable cycling gear.  They are lightweight, somewhat water resistant/proof, easily on/off, and easily packable, for the amount of protection they provide from the elements.


And don't forget about your other head.  I got a nice international orange helmet, but I cannot remember the manufacturer.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2018, 10:14:03 AM »
No expert as well - are you lookin' to get attention (pretty flashy color) or do they make em in black/brown/camo?

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2018, 06:29:37 PM »
Re: the seat vs. your manhood.

I used to do a lot of biking - both road and mtn.  Seat fit is extremely important if you want to make babies in the future, or practice making babies. Or just not have pain when you pee.  But bigger isn't always better.  And often too much padding is worse than too little. 

Mainly what to look for with a seat is one that fits the width of your 'sit bones' (the two boney protrusions from your pelvis/hips that are on either side of your, well, taint).  You want sit bones to bear virtually 100% of your weight.    But you don't want it to be any wider than needed because it will interfere with peddling and you'll end up saddle sore. But if the seat is too narrow, your sit bones won't bear the weight and you'll end up with reproductive problems. Also if there is too much padding it can cause chaffing, and if there is really too much padding it will distribute too much weight to the area between your sit bones.

Years ago I lived on the east coast and there was a local bike shop that had demo seats you could borrow for 24 hours.  I tried out 4 or 5 before finding one that fit. It is actually pretty firm, but it is just the right width.  I still use that same seat, 15 years later.

Thanks for the info, I'm going to ask my bike guy about loaner seats  :tup:   I think my wife needs something done with her bike, 15 minutes and she was whining about her seat.  She has a new Specialized also.

You didn't get your loaner seat at a burning man festival did you?   :chuckle:    :puke:

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2018, 06:39:08 AM »
I have the same bike for the same porpoises and it works great ! Mine is black with a red strip
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2018, 08:43:48 AM »
Keep in mind that any saddle, even the perfectly fit one, will take some time to get used to. If you and your wife are just starting out, some toughening of your own rearends will happen over time.
I recently pulled my former racing bike from the garage and after 15 minutes in the saddle I was uncomfortable. Same saddle I spent doing 4-5 hr training rides and countless races on over a 10 year span. I rarely even thought of the saddle back then.

Along with that tire pump, it’s a good idea to carry tire levers, spare tube and a chain breaker tool (and the knowledge to use them).

For any extended time in the saddle, padded shorts are worth every $. They need to be clean and dry for every trip. I’ve had friends not realize that and they learned what crotch rot is.
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2018, 08:59:01 AM »
I had to get a special pump that does multiple valves, so I can use it on my wife's bike that has a different type.  Has no idea there was a new type of valve for bikes  :dunno:   Not sure why they needed something special.
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2018, 09:14:43 AM »
Is it presta valve or some other new non-Schrader valve type?  If it is a presta valve, I find them preferable for bikes. You can get an adapter that adapts the presta valve for Schrader valve pumps for a few dollars.  It is a good thing to have in your bike bag, as you never know when or where you will be with a presta valve tube and only a Schrader valve pump.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2018, 10:15:10 AM »
More than a few pumps have the ability to work with both valve types. They simply need the seat of the pump (where the pump meets the valve)reversed.
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2018, 10:21:25 AM »
Good point.

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2018, 02:15:59 PM »
Oh man my legs and backside are trashed, and sadly, embarrassingly, it didn't take long to do it  :chuckle:


I can't do treadmills and stationary bikes (bored) but I enjoyed my ride in the mud and snow, glad I got a big tired bike I was still leaving ruts. 


next time I need a seat cover for my truck, I mudded the seat and didn't even think about it until I had already sat down  >:(

I want fenders for the bike too


Oh and a positive note, no numbness in the dangles, just saddle sore in the proper areas.
Oh and the dog loves the bike too, just her speed and she didn't even get in the way, too much  :chuckle:

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2018, 02:50:43 PM »
There are clip on fenders available to help prevent the dreaded skunk stripe of mud up ones backside. They’re not as effective as full coverage ones, BUT, they’re easily installed and removed in a minute or so. Full fenders can require some engineering and fab skills depending on the make and the bike.
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2018, 03:50:11 PM »
I think I've got a plan  :tup:


Once I get it done I'll snap a pic or two



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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2018, 05:47:30 PM »
Hey KF, where'd you get your bike at and how long is the sale going on?

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2018, 04:39:20 PM »
I got it at Clark's All Sports in Colville WA.  "Danny" is their bike guy and he's a good guy.   

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2018, 05:47:50 PM »
There are clip on fenders available to help prevent the dreaded skunk stripe of mud up ones backside. They’re not as effective as full coverage ones, BUT, they’re easily installed and removed in a minute or so. Full fenders can require some engineering and fab skills depending on the make and the bike.

A custom made cover for a rack works well too, then you have a rack

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2018, 06:43:18 PM »
I've been looking at racks, and this fuse frame doesn't have accessory mounting holes in the frame for racks and whatnot  :bash:



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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2018, 07:09:44 PM »
My bike has full suspension so I went with one like this. It clamps on the seatpost, this one looks like it has brackets for side bags

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2018, 07:55:13 PM »
I seen one like that, but it doesn't hold as much weight.   I think 20 lbs?   vs  60

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2018, 08:55:46 PM »
Don't overlook attachments that have a conduit hanger-like functionality.  Some that clamps around the rear axle hanger frames.   

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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2018, 05:13:49 AM »
Ok I will try. The Fuse doesn't fit in with people from the Wedge
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Re: talk me out of a Specialized Fuse
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2018, 09:58:10 AM »
Ok I will try. The Fuse doesn't fit in with people from the Wedge

no, it don't  :chuckle:

but I'm hunting more than just the wedge

 


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