Don't forget your multi-season application

[Rainier10]

If you buy but dot submit it you are automatically in. The option is really only for points if you dont wanna draw but build points

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I had to log on and go to special permits and then either choose points option or click on multiseason and submit it. 

[Bob33]

If you buy but dot submit it you are automatically in. The option is really only for points if you dont wanna draw but build points

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I had to log on and go to special permits and then either choose points option or click on multiseason and submit it. 

If you hadn't it would have been automatically submitted.

[Rainier10]

If you buy but dot submit it you are automatically in. The option is really only for points if you dont wanna draw but build points

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I had to log on and go to special permits and then either choose points option or click on multiseason and submit it. 

If you hadn't it would have been automatically submitted.

Good to know, I didn't want to risk it.

[Bob33]

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[Oh Mah]

Anyone know how many applied last year?

[Oh Mah]

I found it, 13,811 applicants.

[Oh Mah]

I've always thought i was pretty good with math but i'm stumped.Anyone.

WITH 1000 tags and 14000 applicants you have about a 7%chance of drawing.

How much does this % rise with each point you have?

[trophyhunt]

With my Wyoming tag I just switched to ghost points only, your odds just went up!     I will have 7 points after the draw, so in for 8 next year.

[Stein]

I've always thought i was pretty good with math but i'm stumped.Anyone.

WITH 1000 tags and 14000 applicants you have about a 7%chance of drawing.

How much does this % rise with each point you have?

You would need to lookup how many points each of the other applicants has and then square them.  Then, you take all of your points squared as well as the number of tags and do a ton of math where you add up all the chances you will draw a random number low enough to draw a tag.  In other words, it is a ton of work to get to your true odds.

[Oh Mah]

Got it,Yeah i think that's why i was having trouble with the math,Way to many variables and a ton of math.Thanks.   

[Bob33]

In 2017 there were 12,817 applications for 1,000 multi-season elk permits. The average applicant had 3.23 points. There were 133,604 “names in the hat”.  You can get a somewhat accurate estimate of draw odds by squaring your points, dividing by 133,604, and multiplying by 1,000.

[Oh Mah]

lol mine still comes out at around 7% with all that math. 

[Magnum_Willys]

In 2017 there were 12,817 applications for 1,000 multi-season elk permits. The average applicant had 3.23 points. There were 133,604 “names in the hat”.  You can get a somewhat accurate estimate of draw odds by squaring your points, dividing by 133,604, and multiplying by 1,000.

How did you calculate “names in the hat”???

[Bob33]

The data comes from this site: https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2017.php

This gives the number of applicants with each point level.

You need to square the points and multiply them times the number of applicants for each level, and then sum them.

For example, the data shows that two applicants had 11 points. Each had 121 names in the hat (11x11). Multiplying 11 times the 2 applicants means that applicants with 11 points had a total of 242 names “in the hat”.

I copy the data, paste it into Excel, and do the math.

[bearpaw]

I've got sour grapes over WDFW multi season tags after having my points taken away due to their mistake, and then when I called them they didn't even care. I will never apply again, makes me mad as hell to even think about this. All that money in applications and the opportunity was just taken away due to their mistake.