Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?

[7mmfan]

I modern fire deer on a mountain bike, but electric is motorized so no loaded rifle either.....

I never thought about that, but I suppose you could carry a loaded gun on a bike in a scabbard. 

I ride all over on my mountain bike with a loaded rifle either strapped to my pack, or slung across my chest.

[pianoman9701]

We've had variations on this topic a great many times. It's almost like the tribal discussions where no one ever changes their mind about something and everyone throws names and insults about. I hope this one doesn't go there.

Personally, I don't use a motorized off-road vehicle to get around. If you do and your use is legal, I support your use of the resource 100%. If you're breaking the law by riding on land where motorized vehicles are prohibited, you're only hurting every other person who rides them. Also, if I see you, I'm calling it in. No question.

[bearpaw]

I modern fire deer on a mountain bike, but electric is motorized so no loaded rifle either.....

I never thought about that, but I suppose you could carry a loaded gun on a bike in a scabbard. 

I ride all over on my mountain bike with a loaded rifle either strapped to my pack, or slung across my chest.

I have not ridden a bicycle in decades, I could probably charge admission if I was to get a bike, but I've been considering it in recent years. 

[7mmfan]

I modern fire deer on a mountain bike, but electric is motorized so no loaded rifle either.....

I never thought about that, but I suppose you could carry a loaded gun on a bike in a scabbard. 

I ride all over on my mountain bike with a loaded rifle either strapped to my pack, or slung across my chest.

I have not ridden a bicycle in decades, I could probably charge admission if I was to get a bike, but I've been considering it in recent years. 

You never forget! that's why we have the saying, "It's like riding a bike!"

[thegeneral]

I stand with  pianoman9701

[W_Ellison2011]

100% with Pianoman on this. If its legal you will get a wave or maybe a stop and chat. If you are going around illegally... Its a call in. No questions asked.

[sidehil]

I’ve carried a loaded rifle in my scabbard for 30 years, my Dad has used the seat for a rest and decked many deer........now I’ve tried to get my bow of my back on a bike and has never worked but almost........but I’ve managed to kill six of those buggers but not on a bike:))))

[sidehil]

Elk that is, lost count on deer I’ve eaten..... bike is a nice tool to push quarters out on as well, Stone on here will have too push my bull out:))))))) he owes......

[goldenhtr]

From Bob33's post

116 STAT. 2776 PUBLIC LAW 107–319—DEC. 4, 2002
Public Law 107–319
107th Congress
An Act
To amend the Consumer Product Safety Act to provide that low-speed electric
bicycles are consumer products subject to such Act.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY ACT.
The Consumer Product Safety Act (15 U.S.C. 2051 et seq.)
is amended by adding at the end the following:
‘‘LOW-SPEED ELECTRIC BICYCLES
‘‘SEC. 38. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, lowspeed
electric bicycles are consumer products within the meaning
of section 3(a)(1) and shall be subject to the Commission regulations
published at section 1500.18(a)(12) and part 1512 of title 16, Code
of Federal Regulations.
‘‘(b) For the purpose of this section, the term ‘low-speed electric
bicycle’ means a two- or three-wheeled vehicle with fully operable
pedals and an electric motor of less than 750 watts (1 h.p.), whose
maximum speed on a paved level surface, when powered solely
by such a motor while ridden by an operator who weighs 170
pounds, is less than 20 mph.
‘‘(c) To further protect the safety of consumers who ride lowspeed
electric bicycles, the Commission may promulgate new or
amended requirements applicable to such vehicles as necessary
and appropriate.
‘‘(d) This section shall supersede any State law or requirement
with respect to low-speed electric bicycles to the extent that such
State law or requirement is more stringent than the Federal law
or requirements referred to in subsection (a).’’.
SEC. 2. MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS.
For purposes of motor vehicle safety standards issued and
enforced pursuant to chapter 301 of title 49, United States Code,
49 USC 30102
note.
15 USC 2085.
Dec. 4, 2002
[H.R. 727]
VerDate 11-MAY-2000 23:31 Dec 10, 2002 Jkt 019139 PO 00319 Frm 00001 Fmt 6580 Sfmt 6581 E:\PUBLAW\PUBL319.107 apps27 PsN: PUBL319
PUBLIC LAW 107–319—DEC. 4, 2002 116 STAT. 2777
LEGISLATIVE HISTORY—H.R. 727:
HOUSE REPORTS: No. 107–5 (Comm. on Energy and Commerce).
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD:
Vol. 147 (2001): Mar. 6, considered and passed House.
Vol. 148 (2002): Nov. 18, considered and passed Senate.
Ć
a low-speed electric bicycle (as defined in section 38(b) of the Consumer
Product Safety Act) shall not be considered a motor vehicle
as defined by section 30102(6) of title 49, United States Code.
Approved December 4, 2002.

[W_Ellison2011]

Golden, that doesn't change what Hancock has set for rules. Even the federal government can't change the rules that someone sets for private property within reason. I could be wrong... but I sure hope not because that would infringe on a lot of rights.

[bigtex]

The 750 watt reference is from a federal document. State law could override it. Washumgton law would likely consider it a motor vehicle in this instance since the restriction is intended to limit access.

That's only for the Consumer Product Safety Act. It doesn't apply to federal land management agencies.

[mkcj]

So if it's about not having to work as hard as the guy who walks in I guess that means riding a horse should also be banned?

[goldenhtr]

I get it on private property. But what State owned property? It says that the state can't over rule federal law, or something along those lines. Just thought it was a interesting read.

[bigtex]

I get it on private property. But what State owned property? It says that the state can't over rule federal law, or something along those lines. Just thought it was a interesting read.

The law you posted is simply states that electric bikes which fall within the parameters of the law are consumer products, thus they fall under the regulation of the Consumer Product Safety Act.

When Congress/state legislatures/agencies enact definitions it only applies to that particular section of law/to the sections the agency governs.

As an example WDFW & State Parks have a different definition of "campfire" and how it pertains to the regs on their lands than DNR.

WDFW & Parks define "campfire" as any open flame from a wood source
DNR defines "campfire" as any open flame using wood as a fuel source as well as fuel made from materials such as manufactured fireplace logs.

One word, three state agencies, two different definitions.

[sidehil]

Holy funk it’s not legal period....but carry on with your BS.....