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Eric Church
« on: July 27, 2018, 09:22:25 AM »
-I read his comments about the NRA, threw my Eric Church CD out the window on the way to work..
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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2018, 09:24:36 AM »
I'd guess he will be distanced from other country performers now.  Maybe he can reinvent himself to some lefty genre?

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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2018, 09:24:49 AM »
Where’s this at?  Curious what he said.
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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2018, 09:26:19 AM »
Basically saying that the NRA is evil because of Las Vegas shooting aftermath.

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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2018, 09:32:47 AM »
Maybe he can tour with the Dixie Chicks  :dunno:

I read the article he certainly shed some light on his true character I believe.  Won't be listening to his music going forward, it's a shame he was one of my favorites.
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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2018, 09:35:25 AM »
Yup Done, music was okay but no longer will be played on anything I own.  I posted this on Trapshooters.com (where I spend most of my internet time) Spread the word and hit him in the pocket book and be down with this jackwagon.

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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2018, 09:50:07 AM »
Maybe he can tour with the Dixie Chicks  :dunno:

I read the article he certainly shed some light on his true character I believe.  Won't be listening to his music going forward, it's a shame he was one of my favorites.
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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2018, 09:58:10 AM »
Milked the gun owning rednecks for all their worth and now that he's sucked em dry he's casting them aside.

Not surprising.

Any guy that kids look up to and he flys the pot flags at his concerts is a putz.
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That being said I can relate to his song "Wrecking Ball" :)

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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2018, 10:37:32 AM »
Basically saying that the NRA is evil because of Las Vegas shooting aftermath.
I won't chastise a guy for having an opinion. 

Church says he’s not a member of the NRA and never has been. “I’m a Second Amendment guy,” he emphasizes again, “but I feel like they’ve been a bit of a roadblock. I don’t care who you are – you shouldn’t have that kind of power over elected officials. To me it’s cut-and-dried: The gun-show [loophole] would not exist if it weren’t for the NRA, so at this point in time, if I was an NRA member, I would think I had more of a problem than the solution. I would question myself real hard about what I wanted to be in the next three, four, five years.”

Church knows he’ll get blowback from some fans for this. “I don’t care,” he says. “Right’s right and wrong’s wrong. I don’t understand why we have to fear a group [like the NRA]. It’s asinine. Why can’t we come together and solve one part of this? Start with the bump stocks and the gun shows. Shut a couple of these down. I do think that will matter a little bit. I think it will save some lives.”

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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2018, 10:42:38 AM »
I don't see where he is turning his back on gun owners.  The article states twice that he is an adamant supporter of the 2nd amendment. And he never says he is against the NRA.  To me it seems more like he is anti-lobbyist and doesn't like the way the NRA currently operates.  Also, realize this printed in Rolling Stone.  The fact they printed some positive support for the 2nd Amendment could be seen as a positive for gun owners.  Just because someone doesn't like the way the NRA operates doesn't make that person anti-gun. 

Copied from the Rolling Stone Article:

Two nights later, Church was back home when he got a text: active shooter in Vegas. He turned on the news and started seeing the horror.

“It’s selfish of me,” he says. “But my first thought was, ‘I hope it’s not our fans.’ We had a lot of fans there. We even promoted online travel options to make it easier for people to come. I felt like the bait: People come to see you play, then all of a sudden they die? That is not an emotion that I was prepared to deal with. It wrecked me in a lot of ways.” In the end, 58 people were killed and more than 800 were injured that night. Several members of Church’s fan club were among the victims. One fan, 29-year-old Sonny Melton, who’d come all the way from Tennessee with his wife, was buried in an Eric Church T-shirt. “It got dark for me for a while,” Church says. “I went through a period, a funk, for six months at least. I had anger. I’ve still got anger. Something broke in me that night, and it still hasn’t healed. There’s a part of me that hopes it haunts me forever.”

“It was a mother*censored*er on him,” says Church’s manager, John Peets. “Really hard. I think it just opened up an awareness of how fragile all this really is.”

Church isn’t a gun nut, but he does own about half a dozen: rifles, shotguns, pistols – no AR-15s, though. I ask if Vegas changed his feelings about guns. “A little,” he says. He takes another sip of whiskey. “I’m a Second Amendment guy,” he says. “That’s in the Constitution, it’s people’s right, and I don’t believe it’s negotiable. But nobody should have that many guns and that much ammunition and we don’t know about it. Nobody should have 21 AKs and 10,000 rounds of ammunition and we don’t know who they are. Something’s gotta be done so that a person can’t have an armory and pin down a Las Vegas SWAT team for six minutes. That’s *censored*ed up.”

Church says he supports a few common-sense reforms. Closing gun-show loopholes. Improving background checks. Banning bump stocks. “As a gun guy, the number of rounds [the shooter] fired was un-*censored*ing-believable to me,” he says. “I saw a video on YouTube from the police officer’s vest cam, and it sounded like an army was up there. I don’t think our forefathers ever thought the right to bear arms was that.

“There are some things we can’t stop,” he adds. “Like the disgruntled kid who takes his dad’s shotgun and walks into a high school. But we could have stopped the guy in Vegas.” As for why nothing’s been done? “I blame the lobbyists. And the biggest in the gun world is the NRA.”

Church says he’s not a member of the NRA and never has been. “I’m a Second Amendment guy,” he emphasizes again, “but I feel like they’ve been a bit of a roadblock. I don’t care who you are – you shouldn’t have that kind of power over elected officials. To me it’s cut-and-dried: The gun-show [loophole] would not exist if it weren’t for the NRA, so at this point in time, if I was an NRA member, I would think I had more of a problem than the solution. I would question myself real hard about what I wanted to be in the next three, four, five years.”

Church knows he’ll get blowback from some fans for this. “I don’t care,” he says. “Right’s right and wrong’s wrong. I don’t understand why we have to fear a group [like the NRA]. It’s asinine. Why can’t we come together and solve one part of this? Start with the bump stocks and the gun shows. Shut a couple of these down. I do think that will matter a little bit. I think it will save some lives.”

Link to the original Rolling Stone article:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/eric-church-desperate-man-nashville-country-700750/
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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2018, 10:48:57 AM »
I don't see where he is turning his back on gun owners.  The article states twice that he is an adamant supporter of the 2nd amendment. And he never says he is against the NRA.  To me it seems more like he is anti-lobbyist and doesn't like the way the NRA currently operates.  Also, realize this printed in Rolling Stone.  The fact they printed some positive support for the 2nd Amendment could be seen as a positive for gun owners.  Just because someone doesn't like the way the NRA operates doesn't make that person anti-gun. 

Copied from the Rolling Stone Article:

Two nights later, Church was back home when he got a text: active shooter in Vegas. He turned on the news and started seeing the horror.

“It’s selfish of me,” he says. “But my first thought was, ‘I hope it’s not our fans.’ We had a lot of fans there. We even promoted online travel options to make it easier for people to come. I felt like the bait: People come to see you play, then all of a sudden they die? That is not an emotion that I was prepared to deal with. It wrecked me in a lot of ways.” In the end, 58 people were killed and more than 800 were injured that night. Several members of Church’s fan club were among the victims. One fan, 29-year-old Sonny Melton, who’d come all the way from Tennessee with his wife, was buried in an Eric Church T-shirt. “It got dark for me for a while,” Church says. “I went through a period, a funk, for six months at least. I had anger. I’ve still got anger. Something broke in me that night, and it still hasn’t healed. There’s a part of me that hopes it haunts me forever.”

“It was a mother*censored*er on him,” says Church’s manager, John Peets. “Really hard. I think it just opened up an awareness of how fragile all this really is.”

Church isn’t a gun nut, but he does own about half a dozen: rifles, shotguns, pistols – no AR-15s, though. I ask if Vegas changed his feelings about guns. “A little,” he says. He takes another sip of whiskey. “I’m a Second Amendment guy,” he says. “That’s in the Constitution, it’s people’s right, and I don’t believe it’s negotiable. But nobody should have that many guns and that much ammunition and we don’t know about it. Nobody should have 21 AKs and 10,000 rounds of ammunition and we don’t know who they are. Something’s gotta be done so that a person can’t have an armory and pin down a Las Vegas SWAT team for six minutes. That’s *censored*ed up.”

Church says he supports a few common-sense reforms. Closing gun-show loopholes. Improving background checks. Banning bump stocks. “As a gun guy, the number of rounds [the shooter] fired was un-*censored*ing-believable to me,” he says. “I saw a video on YouTube from the police officer’s vest cam, and it sounded like an army was up there. I don’t think our forefathers ever thought the right to bear arms was that.

“There are some things we can’t stop,” he adds. “Like the disgruntled kid who takes his dad’s shotgun and walks into a high school. But we could have stopped the guy in Vegas.” As for why nothing’s been done? “I blame the lobbyists. And the biggest in the gun world is the NRA.”

Church says he’s not a member of the NRA and never has been. “I’m a Second Amendment guy,” he emphasizes again, “but I feel like they’ve been a bit of a roadblock. I don’t care who you are – you shouldn’t have that kind of power over elected officials. To me it’s cut-and-dried: The gun-show [loophole] would not exist if it weren’t for the NRA, so at this point in time, if I was an NRA member, I would think I had more of a problem than the solution. I would question myself real hard about what I wanted to be in the next three, four, five years.”

Church knows he’ll get blowback from some fans for this. “I don’t care,” he says. “Right’s right and wrong’s wrong. I don’t understand why we have to fear a group [like the NRA]. It’s asinine. Why can’t we come together and solve one part of this? Start with the bump stocks and the gun shows. Shut a couple of these down. I do think that will matter a little bit. I think it will save some lives.”


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I think he has his right to his opinion on what he thinks gun control should look like and if he wants to support the NRA or not.  He does say that he is a second amendment guy.

There is other stuff in the full article that is troubling to me.  The part about filling a solo cup with Jack and Diet Coke and then driving to the hospital drinking.  What the heck?  You have millions of dollars, pay someone to drive you to the hospital if you want to drink on the way.
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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2018, 10:57:46 AM »
Sure a guy can have an opinion.  His opinions in that article make me have an opinion of him.............I think he's an idiot. 

I'm just glad I never really liked the guy to begin with. :twocents:
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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2018, 11:11:01 AM »
He says he saw videos of the shooting and it sounded like an army up there and I don’t think that is what our fore fathers intended. I would say that’s exactly what they intended, an army of civilians if needed. Did they intend on anyone taking out innocent civilians like the shooter did? No.
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Re: Eric Church
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2018, 11:21:35 AM »
I don't believe that Paddock was the shooter, but even if he was I don't see how Eric Church can conclude that the NRA is to blame. 

If he really was a 2A supporter, it seems he wouldn't be bad-mouthing the NRA like that.  If he really believes what the government tells us about Paddock being a crazy lone gunman, then he needs to realize that Paddock alone is responsible for the shooting.

A lot of young people probably look up to the guy and they maybe read RS and will probably like what EC is saying.........he likes Bernie Sanders and hates the NRA.  :o
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