Finally bit the bullet and joined the suppressor club

[jrebel]

Started the process today to purchase two suppressors.  YHM Resonator 30 cal's.  Now the waiting game begins.      Gonna be a long 6 months. 

So for those who have purchased suppressors, what did you do to pass the time? 

[Magnum_Willys]

Where did you shop?  Did they help with the paperwork ?

[10mmg]

I spent a lot of time cryin myself to sleep. I will say it was worth the wait. It makes shooting rifles much more pleasant especially on the wet side where trees hold sound. It makes 22lr really fun and stupid quiet. Sorry I can’t offer more advice to make time pass quicker. Hope your 6 months is accurate mine where 14.

[jasnt]

May be the year to hibernate lol

[jrebel]

Where did you shop?  Did they help with the paperwork ?

One shot.....they do it all.  I go back next week with fingerprints and pictures.  We sit down for 45 minutes fill out all the paperwork, pay and wait.  He sets up the trust free of charge.  All in all it is a pretty pain free experience...minus the hit to the wallet. 

[WAElkhunter89]

It's a long and painful wait, but in the end it is highly worth it. I have two SilencerCo Omegas that I got last year, surprisingly it only took about three months to get the stamps back. They were both filed as an individual versus a trust. My SBRs on the other hand were filed as a trust and took forever. Planning on buying two more SilencerCo Osprey 45s when I get back to the US in a few months. The joys of shooting a suppressed weapon are amazing. I went through Rainier Arms for my Omegas and am going to go through them for my Ospreys as well. Great group of guys to deal with.

[N7XW]

Question for the guys that have done it multiple times - do you have to do all the paperwork for the trust (or individual if going that route) and stamp for each suppressor?  Or do you do it once then don't have to worry about it again in the future?
Thanks.

[WAElkhunter89]

Question for the guys that have done it multiple times - do you have to do all the paperwork for the trust (or individual if going that route) and stamp for each suppressor?  Or do you do it once then don't have to worry about it again in the future?
Thanks.

Have to do all the paperwork, fingerprints and photos for every suppressor. Luckily I did my first two stamps through my trust before they changed the paperwork process. Now, everyone that is listed on the trust must submit two fingerprint cards and two photos. In my case I have four individuals on my trust, that would mean each of them has to get their fingerprints done and their photo taken. My two most recent suppressors were filed as an individual so only I had to get the fingerprint cards and photo. I've also heard rumor that individual applications are being processed much faster than trust applications. Then again, if you only have yourself on the trust, it will be fairly simple as well, but most people at least have two individuals on the trust in the event one passes away.

[N7XW]

Question for the guys that have done it multiple times - do you have to do all the paperwork for the trust (or individual if going that route) and stamp for each suppressor?  Or do you do it once then don't have to worry about it again in the future?
Thanks.

Have to do all the paperwork, fingerprints and photos for every suppressor. Luckily I did my first two stamps through my trust before they changed the paperwork process. Now, everyone that is listed on the trust must submit two fingerprint cards and two photos. In my case I have four individuals on my trust, that would mean each of them has to get their fingerprints done and their photo taken. My two most recent suppressors were filed as an individual so only I had to get the fingerprint cards and photo. I've also heard rumor that individual applications are being processed much faster than trust applications. Then again, if you only have yourself on the trust, it will be fairly simple as well, but most people at least have two individuals on the trust in the event one passes away.

Good info, appreciate it 

[jrebel]

After further discussion with the shop owner, I decided to buy them as singles and avoid the trust.  At the end of the day there was no real advantage to the trust.  If I die my wife can transfer them to her name for free (if I understand correctly).  If my son or daughter wants them they just have to pay for a tax stamp and transfer them.......with any luck the estate will have enough money there will be no financial burden.  If you damage one shoot one out or sell it the trust is gone and you would have to do a trust for your next suppressors.   Just seems like a Hassel for no real benefit. 

[b23]

After further discussion with the shop owner, I decided to buy them as singles and avoid the trust.  At the end of the day there was no real advantage to the trust.  If I die my wife can transfer them to her name for free (if I understand correctly).  If my son or daughter wants them they just have to pay for a tax stamp and transfer them.......with any luck the estate will have enough money there will be no financial burden.  If you damage one shoot one out or sell it the trust is gone and you would have to do a trust for your next suppressors.   Just seems like a Hassel for no real benefit.

Going with a trust, since the passing of 41F, doesn't offer the same advantages as it once did.  There's still advantages to using one, but they definitely aren't as significant as they once were.

Best advice I can give you with regard to the agony of "the wait" is just do everything you can to not think about suppressors.  For me, the first month or so was the worst because my purchases were so fresh in my mind but then I kind of forgot about them and before I knew it, six months had passed and I got the call to come pick them up.  Also, telling yourself it'll take a year is better than letting yourself think it will only be six months, that way if it takes longer you aren't heartbroken and if it's less you're pleasantly surprised.

Oh, and don't let anyone bullsh1t you "the wait" gets easier after you buy your first can.  I have six of these silly things now and the wait pretty much sucked every time.

Congrats on the new purchase and once you start shooting suppressed, you'll quickly forget about what it cost you and not only want more but you'll wonder why you didn't buy one sooner. 

[Hoythunter]

I’m about 5 month into my own wait and starting to get anxious.  Luckily hunting season is right around the corner which should help ease the pain a bit.  I was also told there’s no such thing as only owning one, this may become a spendy habit.

[jrebel]

I’m about 5 month into my own wait and starting to get anxious.  Luckily hunting season is right around the corner which should help ease the pain a bit.  I was also told there’s no such thing as only owning one, this may become a spendy habit.

That's why I bought two .... the first time.   

[Yondering]

After further discussion with the shop owner, I decided to buy them as singles and avoid the trust.  At the end of the day there was no real advantage to the trust.  If I die my wife can transfer them to her name for free (if I understand correctly).  If my son or daughter wants them they just have to pay for a tax stamp and transfer them.......with any luck the estate will have enough money there will be no financial burden.  If you damage one shoot one out or sell it the trust is gone and you would have to do a trust for your next suppressors.   Just seems like a Hassel for no real benefit.

I agree there's not as much advantage to the trust any more. However, that last statement in bold is incorrect. The trust is not tied to the suppressor, it's tied to you. The trust goes away when you die; you can add or remove items to it as you like. There is no need to set up another trust to buy another suppressor (or any other item); you just add it to the trust you have.

[jrebel]

After further discussion with the shop owner, I decided to buy them as singles and avoid the trust.  At the end of the day there was no real advantage to the trust.  If I die my wife can transfer them to her name for free (if I understand correctly).  If my son or daughter wants them they just have to pay for a tax stamp and transfer them.......with any luck the estate will have enough money there will be no financial burden.  If you damage one shoot one out or sell it the trust is gone and you would have to do a trust for your next suppressors.   Just seems like a Hassel for no real benefit.

I agree there's not as much advantage to the trust any more. However, that last statement in bold is incorrect. The trust is not tied to the suppressor, it's tied to you. The trust goes away when you die; you can add or remove items to it as you like. There is no need to set up another trust to buy another suppressor (or any other item); you just add it to the trust you have.

Thanks for the clarification......That makes more sense.  I must have misunderstood what was said...still not much benefit for added paperwork.  It would reason a trust could be set up at any time, so in the future if I change my mind I could set a trust up?

[b23]

Thanks for the clarification......That makes more sense.  I must have misunderstood what was said...still not much benefit for added paperwork.  It would reason a trust could be set up at any time, so in the future if I change my mind I could set a trust up?

You could do that, but I think you'd have to pay another $200 tax stamp per NFA item you put in the trust.

[time2hunt]

I just hit the 6 month mark and broke down and called. The gal was very nice said it was still pending and the average wait is just at 7 months.


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[Yondering]

After further discussion with the shop owner, I decided to buy them as singles and avoid the trust.  At the end of the day there was no real advantage to the trust.  If I die my wife can transfer them to her name for free (if I understand correctly).  If my son or daughter wants them they just have to pay for a tax stamp and transfer them.......with any luck the estate will have enough money there will be no financial burden.  If you damage one shoot one out or sell it the trust is gone and you would have to do a trust for your next suppressors.   Just seems like a Hassel for no real benefit.

I agree there's not as much advantage to the trust any more. However, that last statement in bold is incorrect. The trust is not tied to the suppressor, it's tied to you. The trust goes away when you die; you can add or remove items to it as you like. There is no need to set up another trust to buy another suppressor (or any other item); you just add it to the trust you have.

Thanks for the clarification......That makes more sense.  I must have misunderstood what was said...still not much benefit for added paperwork.  It would reason a trust could be set up at any time, so in the future if I change my mind I could set a trust up?

Sure, but it would take another Form 4 transfer (including the $200 stamp) for each suppressor to transfer ownership from your name to the trust.

You need to understand that when going the trust route, the trust owns the suppressor, not you personally. Each trustee named on the trust is able to possess and use the trust property; that ability for multiple people to be named (like you, your wife, and your best friend, etc) is the one real advantage to using a trust now.

[pianoman9701]

I'd love to get one on my AR just to send a picture to Diane Feinstein. That would probably put her over the edge, further over the edge. Well, it'd be a lot of fun to shoot, as well. Can't wait to hear how this works out for you, JR.