I need a bigger gun

[yorketransport]

The bear hunting was uneventful last night (just a sow with cubs) so I started scanning the hillsides for new spots to shoot. I think I found a winner! On brief side note, I'd love to see a Sig Kilo hit that range consistently.


From one shooting location I can get to dirt banks, with perfect target rocks in them, at 2542, 4524 and 4928 yards.


The problem is that my little 338 SnipeTac just isn't cutting it that far. I've had good luck out to 2600 yards but I haven't done much past that. At 4500 yards I would need 310 MOA of vertical and 1.9 MOA of windage just for coriolis! 4928 yards would take 385.6 MOA, that's 19,898". That's 1658 feet!

So now I need to step it up a bit in caliber. The 416 Barrett seems like the most likely option at this point. I don't know if I'll actually follow through with it, but I haven't ruled it out yet.

[Biggerhammer]

That range finder is a increadable piece of gear! The .416 Barrett would be a good choice. Several guys around here shoot them.

[bullfisher]

Umm.. Yeah... What finder is that anyway?

[CaNINE]

I read that the KO2M winner used a .416 Barrett with 400 grain LAZERS and a March Genesis.  Having 400 MOA in the turret would help.

[yorketransport]

Umm.. Yeah... What finder is that anyway?

An original Terrapin. I've played with the new Terrapin-X and I never got a reading like this from it.

The conditions do have to be perfect to get a reading like this though. Low humidity, clear air, good sun angle and the right target. This was at about 8:30 last night. The real trick is getting consistent readings, I took these two about 5 minutes apart to see how repeatable the ranges were. I'm just resting the range finder on a stump so it's really hard to get it and the camera to hold still for a good pic.

I read that the KO2M winner used a .416 Barrett with 400 grain LAZERS and a March Genesis.  Having 400 MOA in the turret would help.

I just need to figure out how to pay for it. You guys all need to buy a bunch of shirts from me so I can finance this whole project. It'll be like a GoFundMe account! For every $15 donation you make I'll send you one T-shirt. All I need to do is sell about 3000 shirts and I've got it covered.

[Reidus]

you need that new march scope with 400 moa of adjustment.

[b23]

On brief side note, I'd love to see a Sig Kilo hit that range consistently.

Ya, I have a Sig Kilo 2200 and I can tell you first hand, there ain't no Kilo's gonna range, anywhere even close, to that far.  The Vectronix are pretty much in a class of their own 

My Sig 2200 will generally do 1800 yards pretty consistently and for a RF I got on sale at Cabela's for $349 I can't really complain to much but they are no way even close to being in the Vectronix RF league.

[jasnt]

March genesis is on my wish list! 

[Zardoz]

Great shooting.   

But, speaking from experience, how well do you know that there isn't some other hunter hunkered down also hunting bear between you and your target?  That is a long way off.......   

[yorketransport]

Great shooting.   

But, speaking from experience, how well do you know that there isn't some other hunter hunkered down also hunting bear between you and your target?  That is a long way off.......   

My actual hunting spot is a small valley only 540 yards at the widest spot. This is just the view in the opposite direction from where I sit. It’s pretty common to see other folks around the tops of the valleys glassing down but I’ve never seen anyone down in the bottoms unless they’re dragging an animal out.

I do very little ridge to ridge shooting on public land during hunting season. I do most of that stuff in the spring and early summer to avoid other folks in the woods. I’ve had a lot of bullets land closer to me than I’d like over the years but they’ve all been fired inside of 500 yards by some internet sniper who’s watched one to many “Best Of The West” videos. That’s in a relatively open clear cut with me wearing a blaze orange vest. That’s why I don’t hunt State or Federal land for deer or elk and why I wear orange if I’m down in the thick stuff while bear hunting.

[JimmyHoffa]

What is bigger than you usually use that isn't crew served?

[yorketransport]

What is bigger than you usually use that isn't crew served?

I've got 2 teenage kids, so I'm not ruling out the crew served weapons yet.

[nwwanderer]

Your Euro mount would be done before you got to him.  With mummified skin still on with this weather.

[N7XW]

Only 4900 yards huh?  Come on down to the harbor, we can shoot 11 miles across the bay state land to state land.  Just have to be careful of the airport on the north side.  Might hit a plane in flight.  Bangin' those plates all day long gets a little boring at that distance.  Going to try the ole compound and field points next just to add a little challenge to it.   

 

[N7XW]

On a more serious note, that is truly awesome.  I'd love to learn from some of the long distance experts on the forum here.  I'm just getting started and learning as I go.  Still having trouble with consistent hits at 600 yards. 

[Stein]

I'd have to mount the scope under my rifle, no need for MOA rails, I'll just zip tie it to a speed square.

[yorketransport]

I'd have to mount the scope under my rifle, no need for MOA rails, I'll just zip tie it to a speed square.

I might try that now!

On a more serious note, that is truly awesome.  I'd love to learn from some of the long distance experts on the forum here.  I'm just getting started and learning as I go.  Still having trouble with consistent hits at 600 yards. 

My advice is to ignore all the advice people give you. 

I have an incredibly unconventional shooting style and whenever somebody comes out with me, they try to give me pointers. I hear everything from my gun is canted, I'm not dialing enough wind, my atmospherics are wrong, my trigger squeeze is bad, I need to true my BC, my ES and SD are too high, etc. That keeps on going until I actually make a hit, and then everyone stops talking.

The only good advice I'll give you is to find a large dirt bank or rock face to shoot at. If you're shooting at a gong, it's hard to spot your misses. If you don't know where your shots are actually going it's really hard to figure out what's causing you to miss. Shooting at a dirt bank will help you see where you're actually hitting relative to your point of aim.

[N7XW]

I'd have to mount the scope under my rifle, no need for MOA rails, I'll just zip tie it to a speed square.

I might try that now!

On a more serious note, that is truly awesome.  I'd love to learn from some of the long distance experts on the forum here.  I'm just getting started and learning as I go.  Still having trouble with consistent hits at 600 yards. 

My advice is to ignore all the advice people give you. 

I have an incredibly unconventional shooting style and whenever somebody comes out with me, they try to give me pointers. I hear everything from my gun is canted, I'm not dialing enough wind, my atmospherics are wrong, my trigger squeeze is bad, I need to true my BC, my ES and SD are too high, etc. That keeps on going until I actually make a hit, and then everyone stops talking.

The only good advice I'll give you is to find a large dirt bank or rock face to shoot at. If you're shooting at a gong, it's hard to spot your misses. If you don't know where your shots are actually going it's really hard to figure out what's causing you to miss. Shooting at a dirt bank will help you see where you're actually hitting relative to your point of aim.

Super good advice.  Thanks 

[jasnt]

Rock hunting has taught me a lot.   Yorke is correct,you’ll learn more just getting out and shooting than any one could teach you.  Experience is the best teacher imo

[Alchase]

What is bigger than you usually use that isn't crew served?

I've got 2 teenage kids, so I'm not ruling out the crew served weapons yet.

So those two teenage kids are going to be doing some "SERIOUS" hiking to set your targets. 
Better bring at least a case of beer to pass the time waiting for them to return, 

Of course if shooting rocks no worries, but where is the fun in that, if you have two gophers