Most are not successful in elk hunting, don’t get discouraged. Heck, I’ve done pretty well with elk but archery is a whole nother experience. Mostly rifle hunted all my life, but getting humbled w archery, didn’t lose a single arrow at the Stevens pass shoot, lost 3 this week. Missed a 5 point, miss judged distance, and should have killed a spike opening day. Been out smarted by the same bull twice in 3 days, he got me again today. Keep at it, there just isn’t anything like a screaming bull in the woods during season. You’ll get one