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Quote from: Mtnwalker on September 26, 2018, 03:59:46 PMI was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesnt do that when hes talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what theyll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.I understand your sentiments and am not discounting your position. Its valid. Don't know that I need to defend Steve, but I've clearly done the same or more on my Mt. View Unit thread. He did say on the podcast that because the unit is so hard to draw, that everyone he encountered was surprisingly open about sharing information. I found the same to be true prior to the hunt and while on the hunt. Prior to the hunt, I was told by many forum members of exactly where they had hunted, seen elk, and how to go about the hunt. Some of that information spanned as much as 40 years of experience in the unit, mostly spike hunting. Where else do strangers share 40 years of boot-leather-earned-experience?!I talked with at least 6 other tag holders during the hunt and more after. Every single one of them shared detailed information with me about what they were seeing and where they were hunting, including substantially more detailed information than what Steve shared on his podcast. I reciprocated with exact information about my hunts.That level of sharing is one of the unique and cool aspects of a limited draw tag: no BS. No dodging the questions. No obfuscation. No looking down and kicking the dirt as a guy can't maintain eye contact because he's about to lie to me. Just guys having an incredible hunt, sharing details, knowing that there are so many quality bulls in awesome, but difficult country, that sharing the information would not negatively impact any of our experience.The draw odds may likely decrease. That has as much to do with the huge bull Steve shot as it does with his sharing. But knowing there are 8x8 bulls in the Mt. View unit is not a secret. And come'on, the draw odds in Mt. View already suck. If more guys choose to apply for Mt.View, then that leaves less guys choosing East Wenaha, Tucannon, Peaches, etc., so it all comes out in the wash.I really do hope you get a chance to draw Mt. View. Its incredible. Incredibly great hunting of big bulls and incredibly rugged terrain. I'll suggest that even a spike hunt in there would be incredible. Heck, humping meat out of Wenatchee Creek canyon is darn hard work, but worthwhile, no matter whether the antlers are spikes or heavy branched 8x8's.Whether the draw odds change or not, I'll be applying with no points. And if you get drawn, hit me up. I'll share details, want to hunt with you, and won't complain (much) packing meat with you out of some hole.
I was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesnt do that when hes talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what theyll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.
Quote from: Mtnwalker on September 26, 2018, 03:59:46 PMI was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesn’t do that when he’s talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what they’ll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.Real class act
I was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesn’t do that when he’s talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what they’ll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.
Quote from: Mtnwalker on September 26, 2018, 03:59:46 PMI was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesn’t do that when he’s talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what they’ll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.I understand your sentiments and am not discounting your position. Its valid. Don't know that I need to defend Steve, but I've clearly done the same or more on my Mt. View Unit thread. He did say on the podcast that because the unit is so hard to draw, that everyone he encountered was surprisingly open about sharing information. I found the same to be true prior to the hunt and while on the hunt. Prior to the hunt, I was told by many forum members of exactly where they had hunted, seen elk, and how to go about the hunt. Some of that information spanned as much as 40 years of experience in the unit, mostly spike hunting. Where else do strangers share 40 years of boot-leather-earned-experience?!I talked with at least 6 other tag holders during the hunt and more after. Every single one of them shared detailed information with me about what they were seeing and where they were hunting, including substantially more detailed information than what Steve shared on his podcast. I reciprocated with exact information about my hunts.That level of sharing is one of the unique and cool aspects of a limited draw tag: no BS. No dodging the questions. No obfuscation. No looking down and kicking the dirt as a guy can't maintain eye contact because he's about to lie to me. Just guys having an incredible hunt, sharing details, knowing that there are so many quality bulls in awesome, but difficult country, that sharing the information would not negatively impact any of our experience.The draw odds may likely decrease. That has as much to do with the huge bull Steve shot as it does with his sharing. But knowing there are 8x8 bulls in the Mt. View unit is not a secret. And come'on, the draw odds in Mt. View already suck. If more guys choose to apply for Mt.View, then that leaves less guys choosing East Wenaha, Tucannon, Peaches, etc., so it all comes out in the wash.I really do hope you get a chance to draw Mt. View. Its incredible. Incredibly great hunting of big bulls and incredibly rugged terrain. I'll suggest that even a spike hunt in there would be incredible. Heck, humping meat out of Wenatchee Creek canyon is darn hard work, but worthwhile, no matter whether the antlers are spikes or heavy branched 8x8's.Whether the draw odds change or not, I'll be applying with no points. And if you get drawn, hit me up. I'll share details, want to hunt with you, and won't complain (much) packing meat with you out of some hole.
Quote from: JWEBB on September 26, 2018, 04:42:58 PMQuote from: Mtnwalker on September 26, 2018, 03:59:46 PMI was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesn’t do that when he’s talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what they’ll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.Real class actsomeone posted 2018 apps for Mt view and it has way more apps this year.. muzzy was 100 last year and 154 this year rifle jumped a bunchQuote from: Shawn Ryan on September 26, 2018, 05:01:28 PMQuote from: Mtnwalker on September 26, 2018, 03:59:46 PMI was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesn’t do that when he’s talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what they’ll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.I understand your sentiments and am not discounting your position. Its valid. Don't know that I need to defend Steve, but I've clearly done the same or more on my Mt. View Unit thread. He did say on the podcast that because the unit is so hard to draw, that everyone he encountered was surprisingly open about sharing information. I found the same to be true prior to the hunt and while on the hunt. Prior to the hunt, I was told by many forum members of exactly where they had hunted, seen elk, and how to go about the hunt. Some of that information spanned as much as 40 years of experience in the unit, mostly spike hunting. Where else do strangers share 40 years of boot-leather-earned-experience?!I talked with at least 6 other tag holders during the hunt and more after. Every single one of them shared detailed information with me about what they were seeing and where they were hunting, including substantially more detailed information than what Steve shared on his podcast. I reciprocated with exact information about my hunts.That level of sharing is one of the unique and cool aspects of a limited draw tag: no BS. No dodging the questions. No obfuscation. No looking down and kicking the dirt as a guy can't maintain eye contact because he's about to lie to me. Just guys having an incredible hunt, sharing details, knowing that there are so many quality bulls in awesome, but difficult country, that sharing the information would not negatively impact any of our experience.The draw odds may likely decrease. That has as much to do with the huge bull Steve shot as it does with his sharing. But knowing there are 8x8 bulls in the Mt. View unit is not a secret. And come'on, the draw odds in Mt. View already suck. If more guys choose to apply for Mt.View, then that leaves less guys choosing East Wenaha, Tucannon, Peaches, etc., so it all comes out in the wash.I really do hope you get a chance to draw Mt. View. Its incredible. Incredibly great hunting of big bulls and incredibly rugged terrain. I'll suggest that even a spike hunt in there would be incredible. Heck, humping meat out of Wenatchee Creek canyon is darn hard work, but worthwhile, no matter whether the antlers are spikes or heavy branched 8x8's.Whether the draw odds change or not, I'll be applying with no points. And if you get drawn, hit me up. I'll share details, want to hunt with you, and won't complain (much) packing meat with you out of some hole.Apparently I've offended some people by speaking ill of Steve Rinella (even though I didn't and I am about as big a fan as anybody) and I don't know that me saying "I was a little disappointed" needs any defending, I wasn't bashing on the guy by any means. But I have never heard him go into such detail after any other successful hunt like he did on this one, going so far as to name the unit, specific drainages and even trailheads. Obviously nothing is a complete secret anymore but the fact is, compared to other elk hunts of this same quality Mt. View is not a tough draw. Last year 126 guys applied for 15 tags for 1 in 8 odds not factoring in preference points. So no, the draw odds actually don't suck. Or at least they didn't. In fact they're about as good as it gets this day and age for an elk hunt of this quality. So excuse me for being a little bummed when I hear somebody shouting it from the rooftops on a national platform with tens of thousands of listeners! I am as happy for Steve as the next guy, super glad he got to go in there and kill a fantastic bull. It's just my PERSONAL OPINION that anybody with that amount of clout and that large of a following in the outdoor industry should have some respect for the local guys and not completely blow out an area to the masses after they have enjoyed some success.
Quote from: Mtnwalker on September 26, 2018, 09:08:23 PMQuote from: JWEBB on September 26, 2018, 04:42:58 PMQuote from: Mtnwalker on September 26, 2018, 03:59:46 PMI was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesn’t do that when he’s talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what they’ll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.Real class actsomeone posted 2018 apps for Mt view and it has way more apps this year.. muzzy was 100 last year and 154 this year rifle jumped a bunchQuote from: Shawn Ryan on September 26, 2018, 05:01:28 PMQuote from: Mtnwalker on September 26, 2018, 03:59:46 PMI was surprised and a little disappointed at how specific he got in his podcast, he usually doesn’t do that when he’s talking about huntin spots. Makes me wonder what they’ll say on the tv episode. Needless to say draw odds just got a whole lot tougher next year.I understand your sentiments and am not discounting your position. Its valid. Don't know that I need to defend Steve, but I've clearly done the same or more on my Mt. View Unit thread. He did say on the podcast that because the unit is so hard to draw, that everyone he encountered was surprisingly open about sharing information. I found the same to be true prior to the hunt and while on the hunt. Prior to the hunt, I was told by many forum members of exactly where they had hunted, seen elk, and how to go about the hunt. Some of that information spanned as much as 40 years of experience in the unit, mostly spike hunting. Where else do strangers share 40 years of boot-leather-earned-experience?!I talked with at least 6 other tag holders during the hunt and more after. Every single one of them shared detailed information with me about what they were seeing and where they were hunting, including substantially more detailed information than what Steve shared on his podcast. I reciprocated with exact information about my hunts.That level of sharing is one of the unique and cool aspects of a limited draw tag: no BS. No dodging the questions. No obfuscation. No looking down and kicking the dirt as a guy can't maintain eye contact because he's about to lie to me. Just guys having an incredible hunt, sharing details, knowing that there are so many quality bulls in awesome, but difficult country, that sharing the information would not negatively impact any of our experience.The draw odds may likely decrease. That has as much to do with the huge bull Steve shot as it does with his sharing. But knowing there are 8x8 bulls in the Mt. View unit is not a secret. And come'on, the draw odds in Mt. View already suck. If more guys choose to apply for Mt.View, then that leaves less guys choosing East Wenaha, Tucannon, Peaches, etc., so it all comes out in the wash.I really do hope you get a chance to draw Mt. View. Its incredible. Incredibly great hunting of big bulls and incredibly rugged terrain. I'll suggest that even a spike hunt in there would be incredible. Heck, humping meat out of Wenatchee Creek canyon is darn hard work, but worthwhile, no matter whether the antlers are spikes or heavy branched 8x8's.Whether the draw odds change or not, I'll be applying with no points. And if you get drawn, hit me up. I'll share details, want to hunt with you, and won't complain (much) packing meat with you out of some hole.Apparently I've offended some people by speaking ill of Steve Rinella (even though I didn't and I am about as big a fan as anybody) and I don't know that me saying "I was a little disappointed" needs any defending, I wasn't bashing on the guy by any means. But I have never heard him go into such detail after any other successful hunt like he did on this one, going so far as to name the unit, specific drainages and even trailheads. Obviously nothing is a complete secret anymore but the fact is, compared to other elk hunts of this same quality Mt. View is not a tough draw. Last year 126 guys applied for 15 tags for 1 in 8 odds not factoring in preference points. So no, the draw odds actually don't suck. Or at least they didn't. In fact they're about as good as it gets this day and age for an elk hunt of this quality. So excuse me for being a little bummed when I hear somebody shouting it from the rooftops on a national platform with tens of thousands of listeners! I am as happy for Steve as the next guy, super glad he got to go in there and kill a fantastic bull. It's just my PERSONAL OPINION that anybody with that amount of clout and that large of a following in the outdoor industry should have some respect for the local guys and not completely blow out an area to the masses after they have enjoyed some success.
Oh I meant trophy mt goats in the goat rocks wilderness. There was this 1 TV personality and highly paid internet moderator who posted locations and pics and a ton of trophy goat info for there so I'll now go there.
Those of you who think that the Rinella hunt podcast or the Shawn Ryan hunt thread on the forum here blew the odds of drawing a tag in the Blues seemingly have never applied for an elk hunt in the Blues. Those odds have been ridiculous forever.