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Re: Freedman fossil fuel royalty change front man to fund the WDFW gap.
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2018, 11:46:47 AM »
It might be as simple as CNW being the only group to issue a press release about it.  Do any of the other groups have anything out??

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Re: Freedman fossil fuel royalty change front man to fund the WDFW gap.
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2018, 11:50:10 AM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/advisory/bpag/

I'm not sure why CNW is taking a beating here due to a press release.  There are 20 people on this collaborative group and hunters/anglers are represented.  Tell them to get a press release out if you don't like CNW making news. 

Better yet, get involved in a more meaningful way.

Here is why this sticks in my Craw. the WDFW highlights Mich Freidman above all those 20 others. There are some on that list that like or admire more than others. Ron Garner of Puget Sound Anglers, David Cloe of the Inland Northwest Wildlife Council, Rachel Voss of the Mule Deer Foundation, and Mark Pidgeon of the Hunters Heritage Council... All are working with and have a long history of working for the resource AND with the department.   Is this reaction because sportsmen are overly sensitive? Are we missing something about Mitch and CNW? Where have they been sportsmens champions? Is the department highlighting CNW ignorance, or is it virtue signaling?


IMO here is the long and short of it. Like it or not CNW is organized. Sportsmen are much less so, and it appears that if the department could supplant its income stream away form  sportmens influence they would be quite happy. Im disapointed the department choose to elevate a frenimie, likely because it seems like a more productive move than dealing with a bunch of unorganized Rabble like us.  Ive joined a couple of new sportsmen orgs recently. I encourage you all to do the same and volunteer in some small way.

You said it better  :tup:

CNW has credibility issues big time.

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Re: Freedman fossil fuel royalty change front man to fund the WDFW gap.
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2018, 01:55:47 PM »
Mitch Friedman and CNW ‘s emotional non science based policy of shutting down all timber management has helped the western ecosystem about as well as their uncontrolled big predators policies have helped the moose and woodland caribou populations.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96324&page=1

I wonder if Dale or the mods would allow the spokespersons of radical fringe anti sportsmen groups PETA and the Humane Society to come on Hunt WA and post false propaganda  :dunno:

I’ve been actively involved in conservation groups for over 30 years and it seems like the big and well funded corporations  like CNW always win and we have no voice. Go to a wolf meeting in WA sometime in OR or WA if you want an eye opener on these dirty politics.

I’m glad CNW doesn’t have a strong foothold in Idaho Montana and Wyoming



https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/advisory/bpag/

I'm not sure why CNW is taking a beating here due to a press release.  There are 20 people on this collaborative group and hunters/anglers are represented.  Tell them to get a press release out if you don't like CNW making news.   :dunno:

We sure live in strange times

Better yet, get involved in a more meaningful way.

Here is why this sticks in my Craw. the WDFW highlights Mich Freidman above all those 20 others. There are some on that list that like or admire more than others. Ron Garner of Puget Sound Anglers, David Cloe of the Inland Northwest Wildlife Council, Rachel Voss of the Mule Deer Foundation, and Mark Pidgeon of the Hunters Heritage Council... All are working with and have a long history of working for the resource AND with the department.   Is this reaction because sportsmen are overly sensitive? Are we missing something about Mitch and CNW? Where have they been sportsmens champions? Is the department highlighting CNW ignorance, or is it virtue signaling?


IMO here is the long and short of it. Like it or not CNW is organized. Sportsmen are much less so, and it appears that if the department could supplant its income stream away form  sportmens influence they would be quite happy. Im disapointed the department choose to elevate a frenimie, likely because it seems like a more productive move than dealing with a bunch of unorganized Rabble like us.  Ive joined a couple of new sportsmen orgs recently. I encourage you all to do the same and volunteer in some small way.

You said it better  :tup:

CNW has credibility issues big time.

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Re: Freedman fossil fuel royalty change front man to fund the WDFW gap.
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2018, 02:09:14 PM »
Mitch Friedman and CNW ‘s emotional non science based policy of shutting down all timber management has helped the western ecosystem about as well as their uncontrolled big predators policies have helped the moose and woodland caribou populations.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96324&page=1

I wonder if Dale or the mods would allow the spokespersons of radical fringe anti sportsmen groups PETA and the Humane Society to come on Hunt WA and post false propaganda  :dunno:

I’ve been actively involved in conservation groups for over 30 years and it seems like the big and well funded corporations  like CNW always win and we have no voice. Go to a wolf meeting in WA sometime in OR or WA if you want an eye opener on these dirty politics.

I’m glad CNW doesn’t have a strong foothold in Idaho Montana and Wyoming



https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/advisory/bpag/

I'm not sure why CNW is taking a beating here due to a press release.  There are 20 people on this collaborative group and hunters/anglers are represented.  Tell them to get a press release out if you don't like CNW making news.   :dunno:

We sure live in strange times

Better yet, get involved in a more meaningful way.

Here is why this sticks in my Craw. the WDFW highlights Mich Freidman above all those 20 others. There are some on that list that like or admire more than others. Ron Garner of Puget Sound Anglers, David Cloe of the Inland Northwest Wildlife Council, Rachel Voss of the Mule Deer Foundation, and Mark Pidgeon of the Hunters Heritage Council... All are working with and have a long history of working for the resource AND with the department.   Is this reaction because sportsmen are overly sensitive? Are we missing something about Mitch and CNW? Where have they been sportsmens champions? Is the department highlighting CNW ignorance, or is it virtue signaling?


IMO here is the long and short of it. Like it or not CNW is organized. Sportsmen are much less so, and it appears that if the department could supplant its income stream away form  sportmens influence they would be quite happy. Im disapointed the department choose to elevate a frenimie, likely because it seems like a more productive move than dealing with a bunch of unorganized Rabble like us.  Ive joined a couple of new sportsmen orgs recently. I encourage you all to do the same and volunteer in some small way.

You said it better  :tup:

CNW has credibility issues big time.

This is why i have pivoted some what on the Love/Hate  many of us have had for big national organizations that seem to just always call for more $. When the same face always shows up to the public meetings representing MDF, RMEF, NRA, SCI etc. there is a knowledge and relationship built. This is much harder to do with Joe 6 pack that shows up once in a while when the public input meeting is in town.
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Re: Freedman fossil fuel royalty change front man to fund the WDFW gap.
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2018, 08:19:49 PM »
I wonder if Dale or the mods would allow the spokespersons of radical fringe anti sportsmen groups PETA and the Humane Society to come on Hunt WA and post false propaganda  :dunno:

do you remember humanure?

The simple fact is we can't keep them out, they can make up some user name and pose as a random HW member. 

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Re: Freedman fossil fuel royalty change front man to fund the WDFW gap.
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2018, 03:00:52 PM »
Why has our DFW now become  expected to do what should be the  ecology departments job. Oh yeah, as with the Forest circus it had become overloaded with environmentalists. Kind of like so us sportsmen can become to all wildlife  like  the Mens football  to all of the sports of the NCAA
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Re: Mitch Freedman fossil fuel tax front man to fund the WDFW gap.
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2018, 05:18:44 AM »
Looks like carbon tax fraud scheme , similar to the one pushed by CNW, ain’t working too well now in France.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-global-carbon-tax-revolt-1543880507


And how much carbon has been released in the air the past 30 years fron uncontrolled forest fires after Mitch Friedman shut down logging???



No one is proposing an individual "fossil fuel tax" to help fund WDFW. If you were referring to the Recovering America's Wildlife Act, that's a proposal working through Congress similar to the Land and Water Conservation Fund that would direct $26 million in wildlife funding to Washington state (and varying funds to all other states). But it's not the core issue at hand here locally.

The agency, and various stakeholder groups from Hunters Heritage Council and Mule Deer Foundation to CNW, Audubon and Illwaco Charter Association, is seeking significantly increased appropriations from the state General Fund to take the bulk of the funding burden off hunters and anglers
, as well as modest fee increases (for example annual combo license fee increases would be between approximately $13.75 and $17.57).

Recommended reading:

https://www.peninsuladailynews.com/sports/outdoors-wdfw-budget-woes-could-be-forestalled-in-future/
(includes description of Recovering America's Wildlife Act)
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-budget-panel-urges-commission-to-revisit-fee-increase-proposal/

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-commission-decides-on-15-percent-fee-hike-after-all-but-with-caps/

https://www.dailyrecordnews.com/outdoors/inside-the-outdoors-why-you-should-support-dfw-budget-solutions/article_f9d98937-f48a-5b38-bb17-c2474a8e0467.html?

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Re: Freedman fossil fuel royalty change front man to fund the WDFW gap.
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2018, 06:43:55 AM »
God I feel sorry for the citizens of Washington State.


Let me rephrase that. I feel sorry for the socialist soldiers all being forced to walk in lock step to the leaders of the state.
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

 


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