6.5 Creedmoor. Far from a "Fad".

[BULLBLASTER]

I have been looking on and off to get a new smaller caliber rifle (.24-.26ish) specifically for deer hunting for a bit now, and every time I look at the 6.5 Creedmoor I end up ranking it at the bottom of my list. I don’t really see the allure. What am I missing?

Don’t get me wrong, I am sure they kill lots of animals and ping lots of steel, but I guess I don’t see what empty nitch it filled.  I fully understand we have tons of overlap in cartridges, and market forces have shown people want it, but what does it do so great? Looking at all the spec’s I don’t see anything to write home about.

Anyone want to enlighten me?

You can seat the high BC 6.5 bullets to ATI 308 magazine length without the bullet extending down into the powder column. Pretty much only useful to the PRS crowd but they're the most tacticool group these days.

Ok, but the ballistics charts I have looked at seem to show that the creedmores high BC bullet doesn't make up for it's low speed when I compare to a rem 260 for example.

The 6.5 creedmoor and 260 Remington shoot the same bullets. 

And very close to the same speeds.

[jackelope]

Creedmoor...Yes definitely fingers down a chock board. Been casually looking for a 7mm-08 for my son. Dang near every store tries to sell me a 6.5 Creedmoor.     I am not a bearded super magnum guy, and Im not a Creedmore guy. If I cant fill my freezer with a 30-06 or one of its children, I'm a pretty poor hunter. Glad folks enjoy the Creedmoor, its just not for me.

But why not?
I'm curious to know why people think it doesn't work. I don't give a hoot about man buns and hipster jokes. If something works, it works.

[Jonathan_S]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

  6.5-284 Norma, .308 Win, .243 Win, 300 WSM

[jackelope]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

  6.5-284 Norma, .308 Win, .243 Win, 300 WSM

I have been looking on and off to get a new smaller caliber rifle (.24-.26ish) specifically for deer hunting for a bit now, and every time I look at the 6.5 Creedmoor I end up ranking it at the bottom of my list. I don’t really see the allure. What am I missing?

Don’t get me wrong, I am sure they kill lots of animals and ping lots of steel, but I guess I don’t see what empty nitch it filled.  I fully understand we have tons of overlap in cartridges, and market forces have shown people want it, but what does it do so great? Looking at all the spec’s I don’t see anything to write home about.

Anyone want to enlighten me?

You can seat the high BC 6.5 bullets to ATI 308 magazine length without the bullet extending down into the powder column. Pretty much only useful to the PRS crowd but they're the most tacticool group these days.

Ok, but the ballistics charts I have looked at seem to show that the creedmores high BC bullet doesn't make up for it's low speed when I compare to a rem 260 for example.

The 6.5 creedmoor and 260 Remington shoot the same bullets. 

And very close to the same speeds.

[BULLBLASTER]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

  6.5-284 Norma, .308 Win, .243 Win, 300 WSM

I have been looking on and off to get a new smaller caliber rifle (.24-.26ish) specifically for deer hunting for a bit now, and every time I look at the 6.5 Creedmoor I end up ranking it at the bottom of my list. I don’t really see the allure. What am I missing?

Don’t get me wrong, I am sure they kill lots of animals and ping lots of steel, but I guess I don’t see what empty nitch it filled.  I fully understand we have tons of overlap in cartridges, and market forces have shown people want it, but what does it do so great? Looking at all the spec’s I don’t see anything to write home about.

Anyone want to enlighten me?

You can seat the high BC 6.5 bullets to ATI 308 magazine length without the bullet extending down into the powder column. Pretty much only useful to the PRS crowd but they're the most tacticool group these days.

Ok, but the ballistics charts I have looked at seem to show that the creedmores high BC bullet doesn't make up for it's low speed when I compare to a rem 260 for example.

The 6.5 creedmoor and 260 Remington shoot the same bullets. 

And very close to the same speeds.

[jackelope]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

  6.5-284 Norma, .308 Win, .243 Win, 300 WSM

I have been looking on and off to get a new smaller caliber rifle (.24-.26ish) specifically for deer hunting for a bit now, and every time I look at the 6.5 Creedmoor I end up ranking it at the bottom of my list. I don’t really see the allure. What am I missing?

Don’t get me wrong, I am sure they kill lots of animals and ping lots of steel, but I guess I don’t see what empty nitch it filled.  I fully understand we have tons of overlap in cartridges, and market forces have shown people want it, but what does it do so great? Looking at all the spec’s I don’t see anything to write home about.

Anyone want to enlighten me?

You can seat the high BC 6.5 bullets to ATI 308 magazine length without the bullet extending down into the powder column. Pretty much only useful to the PRS crowd but they're the most tacticool group these days.

Ok, but the ballistics charts I have looked at seem to show that the creedmores high BC bullet doesn't make up for it's low speed when I compare to a rem 260 for example.

The 6.5 creedmoor and 260 Remington shoot the same bullets. 

And very close to the same speeds.

I'm just gonna stick with my .25-06 and not worry about the 5 points.

[BULLBLASTER]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

  6.5-284 Norma, .308 Win, .243 Win, 300 WSM

I have been looking on and off to get a new smaller caliber rifle (.24-.26ish) specifically for deer hunting for a bit now, and every time I look at the 6.5 Creedmoor I end up ranking it at the bottom of my list. I don’t really see the allure. What am I missing?

Don’t get me wrong, I am sure they kill lots of animals and ping lots of steel, but I guess I don’t see what empty nitch it filled.  I fully understand we have tons of overlap in cartridges, and market forces have shown people want it, but what does it do so great? Looking at all the spec’s I don’t see anything to write home about.

Anyone want to enlighten me?

You can seat the high BC 6.5 bullets to ATI 308 magazine length without the bullet extending down into the powder column. Pretty much only useful to the PRS crowd but they're the most tacticool group these days.

Ok, but the ballistics charts I have looked at seem to show that the creedmores high BC bullet doesn't make up for it's low speed when I compare to a rem 260 for example.

The 6.5 creedmoor and 260 Remington shoot the same bullets. 

And very close to the same speeds.

I'm just gonna stick with my .25-06 and not worry about the 5 points.

if you compare your 2506 to the creedmoor then your only down by 1 so even less to worry about. 

[usmc74]

I rebarreled my AR 308 to a 6.5CM.  Sighting in at 100 yards, I shot a 3/8" group.

That was within the first 20 shots out the barrel.  I was impressed.

[jackelope]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

  6.5-284 Norma, .308 Win, .243 Win, 300 WSM

I have been looking on and off to get a new smaller caliber rifle (.24-.26ish) specifically for deer hunting for a bit now, and every time I look at the 6.5 Creedmoor I end up ranking it at the bottom of my list. I don’t really see the allure. What am I missing?

Don’t get me wrong, I am sure they kill lots of animals and ping lots of steel, but I guess I don’t see what empty nitch it filled.  I fully understand we have tons of overlap in cartridges, and market forces have shown people want it, but what does it do so great? Looking at all the spec’s I don’t see anything to write home about.

Anyone want to enlighten me?

You can seat the high BC 6.5 bullets to ATI 308 magazine length without the bullet extending down into the powder column. Pretty much only useful to the PRS crowd but they're the most tacticool group these days.

Ok, but the ballistics charts I have looked at seem to show that the creedmores high BC bullet doesn't make up for it's low speed when I compare to a rem 260 for example.

The 6.5 creedmoor and 260 Remington shoot the same bullets. 

And very close to the same speeds.

I'm just gonna stick with my .25-06 and not worry about the 5 points.

if you compare your 2506 to the creedmoor then your only down by 1 so even less to worry about. 

Maybe I'll just make it a 6.5-06 and call it a tie!!

[huntnphool]

 

[BULLBLASTER]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

  6.5-284 Norma, .308 Win, .243 Win, 300 WSM

I have been looking on and off to get a new smaller caliber rifle (.24-.26ish) specifically for deer hunting for a bit now, and every time I look at the 6.5 Creedmoor I end up ranking it at the bottom of my list. I don’t really see the allure. What am I missing?

Don’t get me wrong, I am sure they kill lots of animals and ping lots of steel, but I guess I don’t see what empty nitch it filled.  I fully understand we have tons of overlap in cartridges, and market forces have shown people want it, but what does it do so great? Looking at all the spec’s I don’t see anything to write home about.

Anyone want to enlighten me?

You can seat the high BC 6.5 bullets to ATI 308 magazine length without the bullet extending down into the powder column. Pretty much only useful to the PRS crowd but they're the most tacticool group these days.

Ok, but the ballistics charts I have looked at seem to show that the creedmores high BC bullet doesn't make up for it's low speed when I compare to a rem 260 for example.

The 6.5 creedmoor and 260 Remington shoot the same bullets. 

And very close to the same speeds.

I'm just gonna stick with my .25-06 and not worry about the 5 points.

if you compare your 2506 to the creedmoor then your only down by 1 so even less to worry about. 

Maybe I'll just make it a 6.5-06 and call it a tie!!

a 6.5-06 is surely not a tie! That, sir, would be direct offspring of the 30-06 so much more better than a non 06 case. You still gots lotsa learning to do clearly....


How many more times can we quote this? 

[grundy53]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

Very similar and the 6.5 Creedmoor factory ammo is more readily available and has a bigger selection.

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[grundy53]

I don't get the hate. The 6.5 Creedmoor is an excellent deer cartridge. Factory ammo is readily available and inexpensive. Does it fill a niche that wasn't already there? No. But what mid caliber cartridge out there doesn't have a comparable counter part?

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[Bob33]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

Very similar and the 6.5 Creedmoor factory ammo is more readily available and has a bigger selection.

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FWIW

http://soldiersystems.net/2018/03/23/ussocom-adopts-6-5-cm/

Last month, the command conducted a reliability test, using two incumbent weapons, currently in US service; the FN SCAR Heavy and KAC M110. Two weapons of each type were used, one was in 260 Remington and the other in 6.5 CM. What they found is that both weapons performed just as well and were just as reliable in either caliber.

As both cartridges were similarly accurate and reliable, the determining factor for selection of 6.5 CM would end up being trade space. The prevailing attitude is that there was more room with the 6.5 CM to further develop projectiles and loads.

[huntnphool]

So all kidding aside for a minute please... being someone who is genuinely interested in a 6.5 creedmoor...what's better in a short action that doesn't recoil like mad, isn't exotic or a wildcat, factory ammo is readily available and if a guy wants to shoot long range, it plain seems to work?

 .260 Remington

Very similar and the 6.5 Creedmoor factory ammo is more readily available and has a bigger selection.

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FWIW

http://soldiersystems.net/2018/03/23/ussocom-adopts-6-5-cm/

Last month, the command conducted a reliability test, using two incumbent weapons, currently in US service; the FN SCAR Heavy and KAC M110. Two weapons of each type were used, one was in 260 Remington and the other in 6.5 CM. What they found is that both weapons performed just as well and were just as reliable in either caliber.

As both cartridges were similarly accurate and reliable, the determining factor for selection of 6.5 CM would end up being trade space. The prevailing attitude is that there was more room with the 6.5 CM to further develop projectiles and loads.

 Very cool Bob, thanks.