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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2019, 05:51:36 PM »
My hunting tags not including waterfowl and small game are $222.80.  For that amount, I can apply for elk in AZ and have a pretty nice hunt every 5-9 years as well as leftover money to buy an elk point in WY.  Or, I could pay $222.80 to collect points I will likely take to my grave for the most part.
You would also have a chance at some pretty awesome hunts in Wa every year too. But if you don’t apply it just increases my chances.  :chuckle:

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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2019, 07:59:48 PM »
Anyone ever notice how top heavy WDFW is? They have to raise fees to pay those salaries. And ever since they made game wardens full authority law enforcement officers, cost have skyrocketed. Thats what we need out there, game wardens with radar writing traffic tickets and arresting dui's.
So tell me, since you seem to think you are in the know. When did WDFW Officers get full law enforcement authority? How many have radar?

I know the answer to both..

In reality, the Fish Division and Wildlife Division get more funding from license fees than the Enforcement Division. Even the Business Services division almost gets more license fee funding than the Enforcement Division.

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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2019, 08:43:26 PM »
Does anyone know when the 15% increase will go into effect?  Sorry if I missed that somewhere.

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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2019, 10:26:46 PM »
They took antlerless opportunity away for archery in GMU 356 for example but still have modern firearm and muzzleloader cow tags proposed.  There is no late archery season in 356.

Not sure why they keep forcing bowhunters to fight this *censored*.  I have moved on to MT, ID and WY.  No reason to waste my money here.


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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2019, 10:34:37 PM »
The only thing i do in WA is deer hunt.  Unless i draw a good elk tag.  Otherwise out of state elk for the last 12 years.

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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2019, 05:15:34 AM »
Where at?
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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2019, 05:51:54 AM »
Its hard to watch the moose, mule deer and elk all struggle and our predators flourish. 

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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2019, 06:20:55 AM »
Predators are not the problem just ask Inslee
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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2019, 07:12:06 AM »
Am I missing something here?

First - I fully agree the state could better manage the wildlife.

That said. The license increase is capped at $15 for hunters and they are going to create a few new license bundles so that those of us that buy a lot of licenses don't get priced out.

This state has seen a dramatic decrease in the number of hunters over the past decade. It has always been on hunters (though I'd like to see that change) to fund wildlife conservation. With the decrease in the number of hunters, the cost of inflation (as this is like the 2nd increase in 20 years) how do you all propose we keep hunting alive in this state?

Not saying I disagree with everything here, but I'm also willing to cough up another few $ to keep hunting alive.

You keep hunting alive by creating opportunities and doing what their charter says instead of caving to special interests, running backroom closed-door deals and generally shafting the hunting public.  If there is poor opportunity it doesn't matter what the cost.  WDFW is competing with neighboring states for our hunting dollars and they seem to be doing a poor job at that.

Why would any kid buy points for any OIL tag or even quality deer or elk?  Their chances of drawing OIL is statistically near zero and their only hope of the good quality tags is to have a ton of us old guys die off and hope the younger generation didn't put in for points.

Look at the recent cougar hound thing, they couldn't even come out and support hunters by saying it was good idea and increased harvests of cougars are sorely needed in some area.  They covered their ability to hunt with them and shafted hunters.  They choose this time and time again.  Look at other states like WY, ID and MT.  Their game agencies are fighting to get stuff delisted and hunts opened up as well as fighting to maintain hunting rights in a very vocal way.  WDFW simply sits back and lets Olympia and the animal rights groups run new legislation and referendums without saying a word.  Shame on them.
The department is afraid of the animal rights groups and the lawsuits they file. I'm quite sure that they view it as a loose loose scenario since all lawsuit money has to be made up some where... It certainly doesnt help that when an agreement is made the govenor jumps in and vetoes it.

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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2019, 07:14:15 AM »
Of course, they are afraid of lawsuits as well as the pen of the governor.  Other states are afraid of lawsuits, but they don't behave the same way.  That is a choice WDFW is making.

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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2019, 07:32:43 AM »
Does anyone know when the 15% increase will go into effect?  Sorry if I missed that somewhere.

Bought all my tags and permit apps last night, all prices were increased. Would not let me view or purchase anything during the gov't shutdown.
Bought the same as last year, which came to $180. This year was $202.

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Re: Yea Permit cuts and a 15% increase lovin it
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2019, 07:53:40 AM »
Of course, they are afraid of lawsuits as well as the pen of the governor.  Other states are afraid of lawsuits, but they don't behave the same way.  That is a choice WDFW is making.

you know I don't disagree. Those other states are making a stand against external forces. AR groups and the Feds. WDFW has lots of internal struggles all of the political and being hambstrung by the Governor doesn't help.
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