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Author Topic: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.  (Read 3348 times)

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i thought this direct quote from the article would entice some views..  obviosly we know what side of the fence these "educated" researches stand

 http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/feb/07/yellowstone-wolves-flounder-in-snow-while-hunting-/

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Yea elk survived first 3 mins..... what happened next ?

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Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously.
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 05:55:44 PM »
disgusting-why don't they film it when the snow ices over and the wolves run on top and the elk breakthrough the crust. Wolves must be pretty effective the yellowstone elk herd went from 19,000 to 3000 and change after the wolves showed up :dunno:  THey say there is 7500 last year but most of them are "North" of the park now even though they were not historically counted there :chuckle:

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Not research, just a video. 

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Breaking News!  Prey is no longer afraid of their predators.  Can't wait till hunting season when those big ole bucks just let me walk up to them. :chuckle:

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 :yeah:

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If the elk don't fear the wolves, why did they run? What a ridiculous deduction from one sample of snow conditions.

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i don't know, they sure  look afraid to me.

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Those 11 wolves must eat a lot of salads.
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I wonder how many people will touch their nose to their screen trying to read this...

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The message they're trying to send with the video is definitely wrong, but the video itself is pretty fascinating to watch. It's amazing to see just how well those elk get around in such deep snow. That has to be exhausting and put a ton of stress on the animals though.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2019, 09:30:30 PM by yorketransport »

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The message they're trying to send with the video is definitely wrong, but the video itself is pretty fascinating to watch. It's amazing to see just how well those elk get around in such deep snow. That has to be exhausting and put a ton of stress on the animals though even.
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Most ungulates are at their peak physical condition late fall early winter so it's no surprise the elk fended off the wolves testing them. The problem is that those same elk will be tested again and again throughout the winter and come March and April they will be weak. If they want to be realistic they should record another video in March and run them side by side. The outcome would be significantly different.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2019, 08:33:59 PM by Huntin Hounds »

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Is the link in the article to access the research. It's actually pretty good and continues to beat up the idea of trophic Cascades. 

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Is the link in the article to access the research. It's actually pretty good and continues to beat up the idea of trophic Cascades.

Why have so many elk herds been pushed down to populated ag areas in Idaho, OR, Montana, Wyoming if the wolves possess no threat?

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According to USFW research those 11 eat about 220 elk per year.  The soon to be released WDFW wolf number will probably exceed 200, or over 4000 elk per year (or the equivalent in what ever they can catch), if they are only catching one in four, everything in their territory is pretty much harassed 24/7 and the cats are forced to move out to take elsewhere.  We all see that the elk are winning?

 


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