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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2019, 03:19:15 PM »
I don't see the problem the guns needed to be destroyed and benchmade has the equipment to do it.
I worked in a local steel mill and we use to melt up truck loads of firearms no big deal imo

My dad worked at a foundry when I was a kid and I got to come with him when they would melt down all the guns from the local police department once a year. I just don't see what the issue is here. Like others said, there aren't a lot of places with the equipment to melt down the guns so why not have Benchmade do it?

Is the local PD supposed to just have a garage sale and liquidate a bunch of guns that may or may not have been modified to make them unsafe to use? Who'd be liable if the PD sold off a gun out of evidence and then the gun malfunctioned and killed somebody? It's a lot cheaper and easier to just destroy them like any other broken/inoperable tool.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2019, 03:23:10 PM »
Ya I don't have a problem with destroying guns except in the case of civil forfeiture, which SCUTOS just ruled against so no more issues there!



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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2019, 03:23:52 PM »
They all need to be fought! We've been getting death by 1000 cuts for decades! Gun advocates are always the ones that have to compromise, pick our battles, turn the other cheek. STOP IT! Every turn theres another liberal sending a new law to be passed. You don't support me I not supporting you. The NRA dosent have our backs anymore so we need to hit companies where it hurts, their wallets. Don't support businesses that are anti gun to the best of your abilities.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2019, 03:42:37 PM »
How is this anti 2A?
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2019, 03:48:33 PM »


Here are some more companies that have supported democrats to add to the boycott list:

Smith & Wesson
Remington Arms
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Safari Club International
Cabelas
Walmart
Safeway
Amazon
Costco
Chevrolet
Dodge
Ford
Every other vehicle manufacturer
Every major gas station and petroleum producer
International dairy foods association

Do all of these companies donate 100% of their political donations to Dem PACs? I know there are quite a few gun-friendly Dems, mostly in Red states. So I can understand some across the aisle donations. The timber companies do that, too. But donating 100% to Dem PACs, where the money is usually distributed among many politicians' campaigns is a different story. A supposedly hunter-friendly/2A-friendly company who donates nothing to the right side of the aisle may not be as 2A friendly as their statement suggests.

Please research open secrets.  Benchmade DID NOT donate.  An employee of Benchmade did, an individual or the immediate family member of an individual.  Could have been the president, could have been the janitor's wife, could have been a guy they fired.  We don't know who it was.

To say Benchmade 100% supports "Dem PACs" is a lie.  Benchmade didn't support any Dems according to open secrets and Benchmade employees directly contributed to two democrats, not PACs.

Actually it was the owners. So I'm pretty sure they speak for Benchmark.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2019, 03:58:11 PM »


Here are some more companies that have supported democrats to add to the boycott list:

Smith & Wesson
Remington Arms
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Safari Club International
Cabelas
Walmart
Safeway
Amazon
Costco
Chevrolet
Dodge
Ford
Every other vehicle manufacturer
Every major gas station and petroleum producer
International dairy foods association

Do all of these companies donate 100% of their political donations to Dem PACs? I know there are quite a few gun-friendly Dems, mostly in Red states. So I can understand some across the aisle donations. The timber companies do that, too. But donating 100% to Dem PACs, where the money is usually distributed among many politicians' campaigns is a different story. A supposedly hunter-friendly/2A-friendly company who donates nothing to the right side of the aisle may not be as 2A friendly as their statement suggests.

Please research open secrets.  Benchmade DID NOT donate.  An employee of Benchmade did, an individual or the immediate family member of an individual.  Could have been the president, could have been the janitor's wife, could have been a guy they fired.  We don't know who it was.

To say Benchmade 100% supports "Dem PACs" is a lie.  Benchmade didn't support any Dems according to open secrets and Benchmade employees directly contributed to two democrats, not PACs.

Actually it was the owners. So I'm pretty sure they speak for Benchmark.

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No, the owner's speak for themselves; if Benchmark as a company made the donations they'd be speaking for Benchmark. It's no different than your signature line which states that your opinions don't necessarily represent the opinions of the HuntWa forum.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2019, 04:06:08 PM »




Here are some more companies that have supported democrats to add to the boycott list:

Smith & Wesson
Remington Arms
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Safari Club International
Cabelas
Walmart
Safeway
Amazon
Costco
Chevrolet
Dodge
Ford
Every other vehicle manufacturer
Every major gas station and petroleum producer
International dairy foods association

Do all of these companies donate 100% of their political donations to Dem PACs? I know there are quite a few gun-friendly Dems, mostly in Red states. So I can understand some across the aisle donations. The timber companies do that, too. But donating 100% to Dem PACs, where the money is usually distributed among many politicians' campaigns is a different story. A supposedly hunter-friendly/2A-friendly company who donates nothing to the right side of the aisle may not be as 2A friendly as their statement suggests.

Please research open secrets.  Benchmade DID NOT donate.  An employee of Benchmade did, an individual or the immediate family member of an individual.  Could have been the president, could have been the janitor's wife, could have been a guy they fired.  We don't know who it was.

To say Benchmade 100% supports "Dem PACs" is a lie.  Benchmade didn't support any Dems according to open secrets and Benchmade employees directly contributed to two democrats, not PACs.

Actually it was the owners. So I'm pretty sure they speak for Benchmark.

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No, the owner's speak for themselves; if Benchmark as a company made the donations they'd be speaking for Benchmark. It's no different than your signature line which states that your opinions don't necessarily represent the opinions of the HuntWa forum.

Except they own the company. I don't own this site. I can't speak for the site. They most definitely speak for their company. It's their company. Do you think their beliefs change when they get to work?
Those donations they made were with the profits of their company.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2019, 04:14:52 PM »
 :rolleyes:  Actually Benchmade was only altering them to fit in the boxes being shipped to the company destroying them.    ;)  :chuckle:
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2019, 04:15:29 PM »
Just listened to the Benchmade rep on Lars Larson show.  Sounds like they are 100% in support of 2nd Amendment, and won't be accommodating PPD in future gun destruction.


No that’s really dumb. This whole thing is dumb but now Benchmade made it even more dumber than how dumb it was to begin with. Waffles to the pouts crowd. Unreal times we live in. Dumb

Dumb.

Whys it dumb? and how are they dumb for apologizing?

Because they noodled their own spine at the will of a bunch of fear infested pouters. What they did “helping a local PD department” was a good thing.

That is all I’ll Add to this dumbburger.

No it wasn't a good thing to destroy functioning firearms that could have been resold to the public not only to raise money for the PD but also arm citizens.

But that is against the law. Was, still is. If they didn't do it for free, someone else would have for a fee, and... nevermind. That's the 10th time it's been spelled out.
Fine, let them pay a fee.Just cause someone else will do it doesn't mean I should. I'm not even saying what they did was wrong just stating that's a poor reason to do something. Frankly I wouldn't have done it purely for PR reasons which I think they learned that lesson. Personally my problem is with whom they donate my hard earned money.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2019, 04:22:36 PM »
How is this anti 2A?

Oh that’s right it isn’t.

Unless the donation was made by Benchmade from their account it shouldn’t matter. The owner, officers, board members, whoever can act on their own.

And this whole thing with if you vote dem you’re anti hunting anti gun is BS, there are plenty of pro huntin and pro gun dems. We need the more moderate ones on each side instead of these deadlocked extremists on both sides that we have now.

There are attacks on gun rights, I’m not denying that, but this is not it. This is a policy that does nothing to inhibit citizens arming themselves.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #70 on: February 21, 2019, 04:30:22 PM »




Here are some more companies that have supported democrats to add to the boycott list:

Smith & Wesson
Remington Arms
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Safari Club International
Cabelas
Walmart
Safeway
Amazon
Costco
Chevrolet
Dodge
Ford
Every other vehicle manufacturer
Every major gas station and petroleum producer
International dairy foods association

Do all of these companies donate 100% of their political donations to Dem PACs? I know there are quite a few gun-friendly Dems, mostly in Red states. So I can understand some across the aisle donations. The timber companies do that, too. But donating 100% to Dem PACs, where the money is usually distributed among many politicians' campaigns is a different story. A supposedly hunter-friendly/2A-friendly company who donates nothing to the right side of the aisle may not be as 2A friendly as their statement suggests.

Please research open secrets.  Benchmade DID NOT donate.  An employee of Benchmade did, an individual or the immediate family member of an individual.  Could have been the president, could have been the janitor's wife, could have been a guy they fired.  We don't know who it was.

To say Benchmade 100% supports "Dem PACs" is a lie.  Benchmade didn't support any Dems according to open secrets and Benchmade employees directly contributed to two democrats, not PACs.

Actually it was the owners. So I'm pretty sure they speak for Benchmark.

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No, the owner's speak for themselves; if Benchmark as a company made the donations they'd be speaking for Benchmark. It's no different than your signature line which states that your opinions don't necessarily represent the opinions of the HuntWa forum.

Except they own the company. I don't own this site. I can't speak for the site. They most definitely speak for their company. It's their company. Do you think their beliefs change when they get to work?
Those donations they made were with the profits of their company.

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My personal beliefs don't always reflect how I've run any of my companies and the majority of business owners I've worked with are the same way. Work is work and my personal views and opinions are mine, not my company's.

The money that the owners donated wasn't profits from the business, it was money they earned by going to work. What someone does with their paycheck represents the actions of the that individual, not the company that issues their paycheck. :twocents:

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #71 on: February 21, 2019, 04:33:47 PM »
If Bearpaw started making financial contributions to Maria Cantwell and Bob Ferguson's upcoming campaigns,  would you still HW?



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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #72 on: February 21, 2019, 04:46:16 PM »
Did the owners actually say it was their donation?

If they are anti-gun they aren't very good at it as they somehow found two democrats that support national concealed carry reciprocity.  The one guy is rated 0% by the Brady Campaign.  The other one is so off the radar I don't think he even has a rating.

Makes a guy think they supported them for some other reason.  Nah, pass the tinfoil.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #73 on: February 21, 2019, 04:59:45 PM »
If Bearpaw started making financial contributions to Maria Cantwell and Bob Ferguson's upcoming campaigns,  would you still HW?

Did you just use HW as a verb? Cool. :tup:
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2019, 05:02:11 PM »
If Bearpaw started making financial contributions to Maria Cantwell and Bob Ferguson's upcoming campaigns,  would you still HW?

Yes, because I don't care about the personal politics of other people. If Dale, as an individual, wants to donate 10% of his personal earnings to a cause I don't agree with, I don't care. I'm not here to support Dale as an individual, I'm here to support his business because it provides a service that I have a use for. If HuntWa, as a company, want's to donate money to support a cause that I don't agree with, my business would still pay to be an advertiser on this site as long as there's still a reasonable return on my investment.

A business is a business and an individual in an individual. They're two separate entities.

 


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