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SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« on: May 01, 2019, 08:28:43 AM »
I see in the final budget $700,000 in Discover pass funds for the DNR was transferred to the general fund.  Where have we seen this bait-and-switch before?  Now the precedent is set.

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2019, 09:03:28 AM »
OF COURSE it was!    The Jay Inslee money grab at its finest.   Probably some campaign stuff to pay for .....actually probably needed funds to move the homeless from Seattle to Yakima and Selah.    Ive seen a huge surge this last week.   

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2019, 09:14:01 AM »
I would think WDFW should've been fighting for that money.  They were getting 8% of Discover Pass funds from what I remember.  The pass for DNR lands was mostly being bought by hunters and fishermen.  The state parks were getting 84%, but I think that was mostly for the pass sold for park users.
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Probably going to use it for an illegal alien voter registration drive.   >:( 

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2019, 09:14:37 AM »
Source? Link?

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2019, 09:20:48 AM »
I see in the final budget $700,000 in Discover pass funds for the DNR was transferred to the general fund.  Where have we seen this bait-and-switch before?  Now the precedent is set.

Freguson can find fault with law abiding citizens owning guns, but cant see a problem that is real and obvious.

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2019, 09:21:13 AM »
I would think WDFW should've been fighting for that money.  They were getting 8% of Discover Pass funds from what I remember.  The pass for DNR lands was mostly being bought by hunters and fishermen.  The state parks were getting 84%, but I think that was mostly for the pass sold for park users.
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Probably going to use it for an illegal alien voter registration drive.   >:(
No matter where you bought the pass the funds were allocated in the same way. 84% to parks, 8% to DNR, 8% to WDFW.

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2019, 09:22:16 AM »
and what percentage to the general fund?

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2019, 10:04:10 AM »
and what percentage to the general fund?
Prior to this development none.

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2019, 10:32:36 AM »
Source? Typical, if true.

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2019, 10:35:54 AM »
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What actually made the budget: DNR will see lower revenues because $750,000 from Discover Pass revenues was transferred to the state’s general fund. The agency is still grappling with what this means.


reported by the Washington Trails Association

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2019, 11:06:42 AM »
Here’s the problem: Who’s watching out for hunters? We know the WDFW isn’t.


Washington state snowmobile association heard the legislature was trying to take the sno park/grooming funds which are generated solely by snowmobilers (sled tabs). They stepped up and saved the funds.


Why didn’t the wdfw or DNR step up??
« Last Edit: May 01, 2019, 11:47:29 AM by Caseyd »

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2019, 11:09:06 AM »
24.Fund Shift Park Land Rev for GFund One-time state general fund savings are made by a fund swap for discover pass proceeds in the Park Land TrustRevolving account.  (General Fund-State; Park Land Trust Revolving Account-State) page 339

http://leap.leg.wa.gov/leap/Budget/Detail/2019/soAgyDetail_0427.pdf
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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2019, 11:49:14 AM »
http://leap.leg.wa.gov/leap/Budget/Detail/2019/soBillStkESHB1109_0403.pdf

Sections 1202-1205 seem to be the sections dealing with  WDFW pars DNR and such I cannot find any reference to the $750 k  unless im looking in the wrong place
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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2019, 11:55:13 AM »
A lot seems to be transferred to the general funds these days. I inquired about the funds generated to combat littering for illegal dumping. They told me that was transferred also. :bash:
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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2019, 11:55:32 AM »
WDFW makes me sick they are a true joke no help to any hunters at all  :twocents:
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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2019, 12:02:11 PM »
even more reason why I personally have decreased my washington hunting purchases over the past few years
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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2019, 02:20:28 PM »
WDFW makes me sick they are a true joke no help to any hunters at all  :twocents:

And how much money is being spent on coddling the many predators who's populations are increasing as we speak. Maybe some of the folks who have been accused of wearing "tin foil" hats because of their ideas of conspiracies and/or agendas against hunting in this state are not to far off base :dunno:.....and no, I,m not one who has been accused but I know there are a few on here who have been. One thing I have said after watching things since the inception of the WDFW and this states politics is, "something is not quite right" concerning hunters and hunting in this state, just take a wide angle view of what has gone on over the last 25 years or so, and if business continues as usual, where will we be at in even another 10 years, being an observer over what has happened, and being old enough to recognize the depletion of game and the increase of predators in most areas, I myself am not very optimistic.

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2019, 03:13:49 PM »
Washington State stole our NOVA funds for ORV offroading. The NOVA funds are specific to the ORV community ONLY and had to be put back in that fund. They state got sued for stealing it.

Bigtex, maybe you can answer it better than me......
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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2019, 03:19:57 PM »
Just reaffirms my decision to stop buying any hunting licenses in this State several years ago. 

We now have a confirmed black bear on Whidbey Island so predators continue to do well....   :o  :o

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2019, 03:30:27 PM »
What an incredibly soft article. Hey we lost the $750k that was suppose to go to your public lands but we were able to save funding for the fancy parks that only benefit Seattle.  :bash:

"Be sure to take a minute right now to tell him (Jay Inslee) how much his support of public lands and trails in Washington means to you. Letting him know that you are paying attention and thankful for his support can encourage him —and other lawmakers — to pass even legislation to help public lands in the future."

Sure, let me get right on that with a bid NO THANK YOU, for not taking care of your whole state and the land that is more meaningful to the sustainability of our wildlife.

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2019, 05:43:27 PM »
Horrible.
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2019, 06:05:24 PM »
Wasn`t the Commissioner of public lands trying to (and may have been successful) add taxes to different type of insurance plans to pay for wildfires? 

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2019, 06:17:50 PM »
24.Fund Shift Park Land Rev for GFund One-time state general fund savings are made by a fund swap for discover pass proceeds in the Park Land TrustRevolving account.  (General Fund-State; Park Land Trust Revolving Account-State) page 339

http://leap.leg.wa.gov/leap/Budget/Detail/2019/soAgyDetail_0427.pdf
Note the word "PROPOSED" in that link.

After looking at the actual final budget bill sent to Inslee and the state's budget website it looks like this is actually all FALSE!

DNR is still funded with the $750K in the parkland revolving fund, which is partly funded by Discover Pass fees.

So hopefully this ends this discussion.

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2019, 07:45:36 PM »
24.Fund Shift Park Land Rev for GFund One-time state general fund savings are made by a fund swap for discover pass proceeds in the Park Land TrustRevolving account.  (General Fund-State; Park Land Trust Revolving Account-State) page 339

http://leap.leg.wa.gov/leap/Budget/Detail/2019/soAgyDetail_0427.pdf
Note the word "PROPOSED" in that link.

After looking at the actual final budget bill sent to Inslee and the state's budget website it looks like this is actually all FALSE!

DNR is still funded with the $750K in the parkland revolving fund, which is partly funded by Discover Pass fees.

So hopefully this ends this discussion.

Thanks for the clarification BT :tup:

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2019, 09:03:44 PM »
Just reaffirms my decision to stop buying any hunting licenses in this State several years ago. 

We now have a confirmed black bear on Whidbey Island so predators continue to do well....   :o  :o
I thought it was Cameno Island...

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Re: SURPRISE! DNR discover pass funds transferred
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2019, 09:07:47 PM »
I think it takes some dedication to know how to navigate and find budgetary information.  What I posted was what I could find as I was trying to find it in the bill. If that was only the proposed changes I obviously didnt find the actual bill.

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