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Total Members Voted: 16
Voting closed: June 03, 2019, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: Oh Mah on May 24, 2019, 10:23:39 PMI'm looking at them and they look pretty darn good.1.557 long.Anyone use them on big game that can let us know how they worked other than tag filled?I have some 214's adn 227 (I think) that didn't shoot well in my rifle if you want to give them a try. They are stupid expensive so I am kind of glad they did not work.
I'm looking at them and they look pretty darn good.1.557 long.Anyone use them on big game that can let us know how they worked other than tag filled?
Quote from: 92xj on May 24, 2019, 09:07:54 PMQuote from: Oh Mah on May 24, 2019, 08:41:05 PMAre these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?What is the standard store bought fps?How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?I have a thread on here about pressure signs in my 300 that goes into a lot of detail about what I tested. Steve at hammer just came out with a 196gr specifically for the 10 twist 300s. I am running those with 75gr of h1000 at 3015 fps. I tested the 199 hammer hunters and they would not stabilize for me. The 199sledge hunters shot lights out as well as the 196gr hunters. I started low around 72grs and 2800fps, every grain I increased the groups got better and the primers stated to flattened. I got to 75gr with great groups and plenty of speed without getting to a point I was worried about too much pressureAre the hammer bullets that much faster than say an ELD-X? I am shooting 212 ELD-X out of my 300 win mag. It is being pushed by 76.5 grains of H100 and I am getting 2880 fps, 26" barrel. I tried the 214 Hammers and couldn't get them to group.....wonder If I needed to push them faster???
Quote from: Oh Mah on May 24, 2019, 08:41:05 PMAre these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?What is the standard store bought fps?How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?I have a thread on here about pressure signs in my 300 that goes into a lot of detail about what I tested. Steve at hammer just came out with a 196gr specifically for the 10 twist 300s. I am running those with 75gr of h1000 at 3015 fps. I tested the 199 hammer hunters and they would not stabilize for me. The 199sledge hunters shot lights out as well as the 196gr hunters. I started low around 72grs and 2800fps, every grain I increased the groups got better and the primers stated to flattened. I got to 75gr with great groups and plenty of speed without getting to a point I was worried about too much pressure
Are these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?What is the standard store bought fps?How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?
Quote from: jrebel on May 24, 2019, 09:30:20 PMQuote from: 92xj on May 24, 2019, 09:07:54 PMQuote from: Oh Mah on May 24, 2019, 08:41:05 PMAre these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?What is the standard store bought fps?How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?I have a thread on here about pressure signs in my 300 that goes into a lot of detail about what I tested. Steve at hammer just came out with a 196gr specifically for the 10 twist 300s. I am running those with 75gr of h1000 at 3015 fps. I tested the 199 hammer hunters and they would not stabilize for me. The 199sledge hunters shot lights out as well as the 196gr hunters. I started low around 72grs and 2800fps, every grain I increased the groups got better and the primers stated to flattened. I got to 75gr with great groups and plenty of speed without getting to a point I was worried about too much pressureAre the hammer bullets that much faster than say an ELD-X? I am shooting 212 ELD-X out of my 300 win mag. It is being pushed by 76.5 grains of H100 and I am getting 2880 fps, 26" barrel. I tried the 214 Hammers and couldn't get them to group.....wonder If I needed to push them faster??? Are you running a 10 twist in your 300wm?
Quote from: jrebel on May 24, 2019, 10:31:07 PMQuote from: Oh Mah on May 24, 2019, 10:23:39 PMI'm looking at them and they look pretty darn good.1.557 long.Anyone use them on big game that can let us know how they worked other than tag filled?I have some 214's adn 227 (I think) that didn't shoot well in my rifle if you want to give them a try. They are stupid expensive so I am kind of glad they did not work. Were these tested in your 300wm?
Quote from: 92xj on May 25, 2019, 06:46:58 AMQuote from: jrebel on May 24, 2019, 09:30:20 PMQuote from: 92xj on May 24, 2019, 09:07:54 PMQuote from: Oh Mah on May 24, 2019, 08:41:05 PMAre these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?What is the standard store bought fps?How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?I have a thread on here about pressure signs in my 300 that goes into a lot of detail about what I tested. Steve at hammer just came out with a 196gr specifically for the 10 twist 300s. I am running those with 75gr of h1000 at 3015 fps. I tested the 199 hammer hunters and they would not stabilize for me. The 199sledge hunters shot lights out as well as the 196gr hunters. I started low around 72grs and 2800fps, every grain I increased the groups got better and the primers stated to flattened. I got to 75gr with great groups and plenty of speed without getting to a point I was worried about too much pressureAre the hammer bullets that much faster than say an ELD-X? I am shooting 212 ELD-X out of my 300 win mag. It is being pushed by 76.5 grains of H100 and I am getting 2880 fps, 26" barrel. I tried the 214 Hammers and couldn't get them to group.....wonder If I needed to push them faster??? Are you running a 10 twist in your 300wm?Yes, 1:10 with a 26" barrel
Quote from: jrebel on May 25, 2019, 08:38:59 AMQuote from: 92xj on May 25, 2019, 06:46:58 AMQuote from: jrebel on May 24, 2019, 09:30:20 PMQuote from: 92xj on May 24, 2019, 09:07:54 PMQuote from: Oh Mah on May 24, 2019, 08:41:05 PMAre these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?What is the standard store bought fps?How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?I have a thread on here about pressure signs in my 300 that goes into a lot of detail about what I tested. Steve at hammer just came out with a 196gr specifically for the 10 twist 300s. I am running those with 75gr of h1000 at 3015 fps. I tested the 199 hammer hunters and they would not stabilize for me. The 199sledge hunters shot lights out as well as the 196gr hunters. I started low around 72grs and 2800fps, every grain I increased the groups got better and the primers stated to flattened. I got to 75gr with great groups and plenty of speed without getting to a point I was worried about too much pressureAre the hammer bullets that much faster than say an ELD-X? I am shooting 212 ELD-X out of my 300 win mag. It is being pushed by 76.5 grains of H100 and I am getting 2880 fps, 26" barrel. I tried the 214 Hammers and couldn't get them to group.....wonder If I needed to push them faster??? Are you running a 10 twist in your 300wm?Yes, 1:10 with a 26" barrelthats what I was thinking. Steve puts up the recommended minimum twist rates on each options available on the website. I thought I would try and cheat the system a little and step up in grain like you did, it didn't work. I ended up talking to steve and decided that if I actually listen to him and follow his recommendations, the bullets actually work really well. You should give the 196gr hammers a try if you want long range stuff. If you want something to shoot under 500 yards, give the 199 sledge hammers a try. Both of those are shooting amazing for me. I just did a 400 yard group with the 196s and the group measured 2.1", good enough for me and my setup.
Quote from: 92xj on May 25, 2019, 09:17:04 AMQuote from: jrebel on May 25, 2019, 08:38:59 AMQuote from: 92xj on May 25, 2019, 06:46:58 AMQuote from: jrebel on May 24, 2019, 09:30:20 PMQuote from: 92xj on May 24, 2019, 09:07:54 PMQuote from: Oh Mah on May 24, 2019, 08:41:05 PMAre these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?What is the standard store bought fps?How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?I have a thread on here about pressure signs in my 300 that goes into a lot of detail about what I tested. Steve at hammer just came out with a 196gr specifically for the 10 twist 300s. I am running those with 75gr of h1000 at 3015 fps. I tested the 199 hammer hunters and they would not stabilize for me. The 199sledge hunters shot lights out as well as the 196gr hunters. I started low around 72grs and 2800fps, every grain I increased the groups got better and the primers stated to flattened. I got to 75gr with great groups and plenty of speed without getting to a point I was worried about too much pressureAre the hammer bullets that much faster than say an ELD-X? I am shooting 212 ELD-X out of my 300 win mag. It is being pushed by 76.5 grains of H100 and I am getting 2880 fps, 26" barrel. I tried the 214 Hammers and couldn't get them to group.....wonder If I needed to push them faster??? Are you running a 10 twist in your 300wm?Yes, 1:10 with a 26" barrelthats what I was thinking. Steve puts up the recommended minimum twist rates on each options available on the website. I thought I would try and cheat the system a little and step up in grain like you did, it didn't work. I ended up talking to steve and decided that if I actually listen to him and follow his recommendations, the bullets actually work really well. You should give the 196gr hammers a try if you want long range stuff. If you want something to shoot under 500 yards, give the 199 sledge hammers a try. Both of those are shooting amazing for me. I just did a 400 yard group with the 196s and the group measured 2.1", good enough for me and my setup.Yeah, I have no doubt if I use the right bullet they will shoot. They appear very well made and get great reviews. I was trying to cheat the system a bit to push heavies......which is really kind of dumb. A deer could care less if they are shot with a 196 or 214 grainer....
anyone have a hornady volume 10 load book?
Ok,I was looking at the load data on page 581 for the max load h 1000 76.2 grains 2800 fps. then the 212 eldx on page 583 max load is 77.6 grain.Why do they consider a heavier bullet with more powder safer than a lighter bullet with same powder and charge?