Weyerhaeuser motorized access: Locked gates?

[ljsommer]

So I bought a motorized pass and expected to be mailed a key to get into the locked gate that controls access to the entire parcel, but have yet to receive one. How does that usually work? I am hoping I won't be at the mercy of whenever they deem appropriate to open/close the gates...

[Alan K]

Check the start date of your permit.

[HntnFsh]

Probably 2nd week in July after they put new locks on

[grundy53]

So I bought a motorized pass and expected to be mailed a key to get into the locked gate that controls access to the entire parcel, but have yet to receive one. How does that usually work? I am hoping I won't be at the mercy of whenever they deem appropriate to open/close the gates...

Your permit doesn't start until August 1st. They usually send the packets in July.

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[grundy53]

Probably 2nd week in July after they put new locks on

They don't switch the locks until the last week in July.

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[WapitiTalk1]

Yep... Current WEYCO motorized permits end something like 23 JUL.  Between that date and the start of the next permit period (1 AUG for most I think), they'll change the locks out and send you your permit and key. 

[N7XW]

Yep... Current WEYCO motorized permits end something like 23 JUL.  Between that date and the start of the next permit period (1 AUG for most I think), they'll change the locks out and send you your permit and key.

[bowhntr]

They’ll give you a map that shows you access points.  Make sure you follow their rules closely (including carrying an extinguisher, shovel, and ax/chain saw)  I’ve been checked at least 4 times over the last few years  by either a game warden or weyco employee, not just at the gates.

Pro tip: keep the key separate  from the  set of keys of the vehicle you are driving  otherwise you’ll be dealing with shutting your rig off and on twice each time you pass through the gate.   

[ljsommer]

Oh fantastic ok thank you everyone I appreciate the replies, that helps immensely!

[N7XW]

You know what "GRINDS MY GEARS" about this permit?  You can't target shoot per the agreement.  I can understand the need to prevent people from making a mess with paper targets, bottles, cans, etc. but where's the harm in long range shooting at steel? 

[ljsommer]

You know what "GRINDS MY GEARS" about this permit?  You can't target shoot per the agreement.  I can understand the need to prevent people from making a mess with paper targets, bottles, cans, etc. but where's the harm in long range shooting at steel? 

I completely agree, if all were good stewards. Unfortunately my primary hunting spot was yet another victim to the AR-15 "Let's shoot at this old microwave" crowd and the entire entrance now looks like a garbage dump. I gave a (tactful and polite) earful to a group of young men who were out shooting up garbage (during archery season).

[cougforester]

You know what "GRINDS MY GEARS" about this permit?  You can't target shoot per the agreement.  I can understand the need to prevent people from making a mess with paper targets, bottles, cans, etc. but where's the harm in long range shooting at steel? 

Fires. Or maybe there’s people in the brush cruising or thinning or picking brush.

[N7XW]

Yeah, you guys are right.  I'm just a little bent out of shape about the few and far between places to long distance shoot on the west side.

[cougforester]

Yeah, you guys are right.  I'm just a little bent out of shape about the few and far between places to long distance shoot on the west side.

No I get it. But if timberland I worked on all the sudden got opened up to guys shooting at all, much less 500 yards or more, I would be real nervous about working in the thick stuff!

[N7XW]

Yeah, you guys are right.  I'm just a little bent out of shape about the few and far between places to long distance shoot on the west side.

No I get it. But if timberland I worked on all the sudden got opened up to guys shooting at all, much less 500 yards or more, I would be real nervous about working in the thick stuff!

I've been shot at both intentionally and unintentionally and neither were good experiences.  I also did timber layout ("forest engineering") for a couple years and would also be nervous with guys shooting nearby.  Was never shot at on that job but did have a cougar experience.

[cougforester]

Yeah, you guys are right.  I'm just a little bent out of shape about the few and far between places to long distance shoot on the west side.

No I get it. But if timberland I worked on all the sudden got opened up to guys shooting at all, much less 500 yards or more, I would be real nervous about working in the thick stuff!

I've been shot at both intentionally and unintentionally and neither were good experiences.  I also did timber layout ("forest engineering") for a couple years and would also be nervous with guys shooting nearby.  Was never shot at on that job but did have a cougar experience.

  Sorry for the thread jack OP! Back to Weyco permits.

[N7XW]

Yeah, you guys are right.  I'm just a little bent out of shape about the few and far between places to long distance shoot on the west side.

No I get it. But if timberland I worked on all the sudden got opened up to guys shooting at all, much less 500 yards or more, I would be real nervous about working in the thick stuff!

I've been shot at both intentionally and unintentionally and neither were good experiences.  I also did timber layout ("forest engineering") for a couple years and would also be nervous with guys shooting nearby.  Was never shot at on that job but did have a cougar experience.

  Sorry for the thread jack OP! Back to Weyco permits.

  sorry OP

[avidnwoutdoorsman]

Make sure you follow their rules closely (including carrying an extinguisher, shovel, and ax/chain saw) 

I had never caught this rule... good to know.

[bowhntr]

Make sure you follow their rules closely (including carrying an extinguisher, shovel, and ax/chain saw) 

I had never caught this rule... good to know.

This is the reminder they sent out last year to permit holders. They  change stuff up year to year so it’s always a good idea to read the current year’s rules.  You’ll have to check the actual rule list  (not this reminder email screenshot that I’m adding) to see if chainsaws are okay instead of an ax. I’ve always carried an ax so I haven’t had to worry about it.

[cem3434]

So I bought a motorized pass and expected to be mailed a key to get into the locked gate that controls access to the entire parcel, but have yet to receive one. How does that usually work? I am hoping I won't be at the mercy of whenever they deem appropriate to open/close the gates...

Your permit doesn't start until August 1st. They usually send the packets in July.

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  Then lock it down for fire season until the first of October.

[Macs B]

You might want to check your lease, if memory serves, the lease specifically prohibits target or recreational ie non hunting shooting.  That was a couple of years ago, but it was true in the Pe El N/S, Aberdeen, St Helens, and the Vail permitted areas.  Just check into it before you go out and get in a bind.

[bobcat]

Weyerhaeuser doesn't usually close their lands for fire danger. Not since the pay for access system has been in place.

[avidnwoutdoorsman]

So I bought a motorized pass and expected to be mailed a key to get into the locked gate that controls access to the entire parcel, but have yet to receive one. How does that usually work? I am hoping I won't be at the mercy of whenever they deem appropriate to open/close the gates...

Your permit doesn't start until August 1st. They usually send the packets in July.

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  Then lock it down for fire season until the first of October.

"Washington Fire Season is April 15 - October 15th". What you're proposing is they would have the gates locked for those dates then or longer if extended. That would make the permit almost null and void missing early archery deer and elk, early muzzy deer and elk, and first weekend of deer. Not to mention Spring Turkey.

I wouldn't buy the permit if I couldn't hunt or Access before October 15th. The second August 1st rolls around I am in there scouting for my season(s) ... I'm scouting all year though really. I just never caught the fire tools I needed but will carry them now. They are on my permit agreement and would assume they are on everyone's.

20. Fire Prevention.
 During fire season, Permittee must carry a pointed shovel, an axe or Pulaski and a properly
functioning U.L.-approved fire extinguisher 5-pound ABC minimum rating.
 Permittee must call 911 if any fires are observed.
 No fireworks are permitted on the Permit Area at any time.
 No smoking is allowed outside the cab of a motor vehicle.
 In Washington, fire season is April 15 to October 15 per state law but may be extended in
extreme fire conditions. https://fortress.wa.gov/dnr/protection/ifpl/
 In Oregon, the fire season varies and is defined by the Department of Forestry on their web
page https://gisapps.odf.oregon.gov/firerestrictions/ifpl.html

[grundy53]

So I bought a motorized pass and expected to be mailed a key to get into the locked gate that controls access to the entire parcel, but have yet to receive one. How does that usually work? I am hoping I won't be at the mercy of whenever they deem appropriate to open/close the gates...

Your permit doesn't start until August 1st. They usually send the packets in July.

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  Then lock it down for fire season until the first of October.

They haven't closed either tree farm I have permits for since they started selling permits.

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[Piscatory_5]

You know what "GRINDS MY GEARS" about this permit?  You can't target shoot per the agreement.  I can understand the need to prevent people from making a mess with paper targets, bottles, cans, etc. but where's the harm in long range shooting at steel? 

Fires. Or maybe there’s people in the brush cruising or thinning or picking brush.

Supposed to be shooting into a solid and sizable backstop, like a dirt bank...etc.

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[N7XW]

You know what "GRINDS MY GEARS" about this permit?  You can't target shoot per the agreement.  I can understand the need to prevent people from making a mess with paper targets, bottles, cans, etc. but where's the harm in long range shooting at steel? 

Fires. Or maybe there’s people in the brush cruising or thinning or picking brush.

Supposed to be shooting into a solid and sizable backstop, like a dirt bank...etc.

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The permit document clearly says no target shooting.  It doesn't mention backstops, dirt banks, etc.

[SteelheadTed]

What Weyerhaeuser unit you hunting in?  You can PM me if you don't want to say publicly.  It's always nice to know a couple other permit holders in the same area so we can help pack for each other.

[ljsommer]

What Weyerhaeuser unit you hunting in?  You can PM me if you don't want to say publicly.  It's always nice to know a couple other permit holders in the same area so we can help pack for each other.

I am in the aberdeen unit, never been there before. This will be my first year buying a pass.

[SteelheadTed]

What Weyerhaeuser unit you hunting in?  You can PM me if you don't want to say publicly.  It's always nice to know a couple other permit holders in the same area so we can help pack for each other.

I am in the aberdeen unit, never been there before. This will be my first year buying a pass.

Drive and walk, drive and walk.  Use locate bugles, look for sign and move on if you see or hear neither.  I'm in North Pe Ell.  If you didn't see it, one thing Weyco has added this year is a guest pass that is good for a couple days (you have to tell them when you are going to use, which can be as late as the day before you do, if I remember correctly).  I don't know if it was their intent but what it allows for is bringing in a buddy once we have an animal down to help get it out.  We will be hunting close enough together if you wanna swap phone numbers in case of needing help packing.

Good luck.

[WapitiTalk1]

 If you didn't see it, one thing Weyco has added this year is a guest pass that is good for a couple days (you have to tell them when you are going to use, which can be as late as the day before you do, if I remember correctly).  I don't know if it was their intent but what it allows for is bringing in a buddy once we have an animal down to help get it out.  [/quote]

Weyco charges 100 bones for the guest pass which is a bit more than pricey.  I had a buddy buy one last year and I helped him get a deer in the Vale area. 

[SteelheadTed]

If you didn't see it, one thing Weyco has added this year is a guest pass that is good for a couple days (you have to tell them when you are going to use, which can be as late as the day before you do, if I remember correctly).  I don't know if it was their intent but what it allows for is bringing in a buddy once we have an animal down to help get it out.

Weyco charges 100 bones for the guest pass which is a bit more than pricey.  I had a buddy buy one last year and I helped him get a deer in the Vale area.

The guest pass I am talking about is a 2-day pass that is new for 2019 and I don't remember it being $100.  It was an email Wyco sent out a few months ago.  $100 would be steep for just a couple days...

[WapitiTalk1]

If you didn't see it, one thing Weyco has added this year is a guest pass that is good for a couple days (you have to tell them when you are going to use, which can be as late as the day before you do, if I remember correctly).  I don't know if it was their intent but what it allows for is bringing in a buddy once we have an animal down to help get it out. 

Weyco charges 100 bones for the guest pass which is a bit more than pricey.  I had a buddy buy one last year and I helped him get a deer in the Vale area.

The guest pass I am talking about is a 2-day pass that is new for 2019 and I don't remember it being $100.  It was an email Wyco sent out a few months ago.  $100 would be steep for just a couple days...
[/quote]

Pretty sure it'll be the same as last year; it would be great if they offered a "free" two day pass for a buddy.  The 2018 pass was for a guest (you could only do it one time) to mainly hunt with the permit holder (no firewood, no unaccompanied access). 

[Goshawk]

You know what "GRINDS MY GEARS" about this permit?  You can't target shoot per the agreement.  I can understand the need to prevent people from making a mess with paper targets, bottles, cans, etc. but where's the harm in long range shooting at steel? 

Well, for only $350 what do you expect, a grateful land owner?