Advice for anyone looking for a guide in the Goat Rocks Wilderness?

[carlinski]

I drew the Goat Rocks Quality Bull Rifle tag last year and had an absolute nightmare experience with a well known guide!  Personal message me for the details. Blew 16 years worth of points for the worst hunt of my life!

[bornhunter]

Should start a lawsuit if he has anything!

[Bushcraft]

I drew the Goat Rocks Quality Bull Rifle tag last year and had an absolute nightmare experience with a well known guide!  Personal message me for the details. Blew 16 years worth of points for the worst hunt of my life!

Why PM? Why not share your experience publicly? I don't know if the guy is in the guide and outfitting business anymore, but it may save others some frustration in the future.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Well known?
Only ones I hear about get pretty poor reviews.
Especially if they played a guide on T.V.
But really, tell us the story and we will all know who it was.
Just change the names to protect the innocent.

[Old Man8383]

I am sorry your hunt turned out the way it did.  That's a special tag and area.  My guess is that your "guide" may not have had a permit to operate in the Goat Rocks Wilderness Area and on the Gifford Pinchot National Forest.  You can find out with a quick call to one of the USFS offices.  If he didn't have the proper permits I'd turn him in to them.  After they've had their way with him, I'd sue to get your fees refunded and paid "damages" for the lost opportunity and expenses.  Your case will be stronger if he didn't have the proper permits. 

There are folks claiming to be guides out there, many don't have permits to conduct business on federal lands and in the wilderness areas.  I personally don't know of a "well known" guide/outfitter working in the South Cascades on the Westside of the crest that is permitted to work on USFS lands and in the wilderness area.  I heard of a couple of "guides/outfitters" (I don't know if they qualify to be called well known)  that claimed to be working on private forest lands, but that wouldn't cover your tag area. 

Did you actually get to hunt in your tag area?  If your guide took you to an area outside of where your tag was good for to hunt, I'd talk to WDFW and the Attorney General Office.  They have a fraud division.  Again sorry for how your hunt turned out.

[elkchaser54]

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=218459.0

[grade-creek-rd]

I think it's pretty honorable for Carlinski to offer his advice of the trip in a PM instead of blasting it on here...if anything that way the person who WANTS the info can get it, but for those that don't or might not agree it won't turn into "one of those threads" (popcorn and all).

As for the trip, (yes, I know the details and I am aware of it all, as I was one of the guys who talked him into hiring a guide when he drew that tag, and I still feel bad for encouraging him to do so)...so if your looking for a "total review" or just want to ask a specific question he can let you know what happened on HIS trip...again, I am glad he didn't put it on here as Carlinski is a respectful guy and won't stoop to throwing mud but will let anyone (who wants to know) what happened on HIS trip so they can make a decision for themselves.

Grade

PS. Yes the guide has the required special use permits from the Forest Service, and is a known guide, it is not some "overnight/rogue" outfitter.

[2MANY]

I respect the approach as well.

[Matth]

I thought his approach to this was perfect

[2MANY]

PM sent.

[huntnfmly]

Pm sent

[Tbob]

Pm sent...

[Tbob]

Anyone hear anything yet? No reply to Pm.

[WSU]

Nope

[huntnfmly]

I don't know if he meant to or not but he mentioned who it was in another thread