Dogs chasing deer

[Ray]

I heard another hunter tell me about shooting dogs chasing deer

I think more information or examples would be helpful to your discussion.

If someone's dog chases a deer how do we know that it's an imminent death sentence and a justifiable punishment in every situation? What happens during the warmer months? Do all animals die from the chase then? Is it really that irresponsible? Maybe it's good for deer or other animals in some situations. They should fear man...

There's people that do not hunt and walk up and down logging roads with their dogs all the time without leashes. Inflicting a death sentence on them casually strolling in the woods or outside and going after a deer might seem a little over the top. At least the way I am imagining the situation. Matter of fact if someone did that to my dog while I was out strolling the logging roads (which I do every so often with my dog) I'd be just as likely to pull out some iron of my own and get busy.

[jackelope]

I'd be just as likely to pull out some iron of my own and get busy.

what he said.

[jackelope]

I think there might be a WAC code aobut hunting with your dog during the deer or elk seasons as well as not being real bright I would think

huh??

[boneaddict]

I might be wrong, but I thought you couldn't hunt deer or elk with your dog, but then again there is pheasant and other stuff....who knows, It doesn't effect me.  I wouldn't think it was bright as it might be harder to get your animal, and I think your dog might just get hammered by some trigger happy redneck.

[Ray]

There's a fellow and his son that hunt birds down over where I go every once in a while. They have a dog. I wouldn't shoot it if it went after a deer. They have more guns than me for one... second I just don't think it would be right and third I think they are nice people that I would rather be friends with than shoot their dog if it in fact ever did chase a deer.

[jackelope]

bone...i thought you were talking bird hunting.
cuz you can do that...you just can't hunt huns with an '06. and your dog.

[Palmer]

Regs p. 66 #8

Using Dogs
Hunting wild animals with dogs during any deer or elk modern firearm season is prohibited.

Hunting or pursuing any big game animal or bobcat with dogs is prohibited except cougar hunting as permitted by the Fish Wildlife Commission.

Allowing a dog, owned or controlled by you, to pursue or injure deer or elk or to accompany you while you are hunting deer or elk is prohibited

I would say if its a persistant problem call the authorities of the WDFW.  I've got the number logged into my phone.  However, they might terminate the dog.  I believe they do in Idaho.

[Alchase]

My ex has the dumbest animal on the face of the earth. He is a lasaapso (sp?), this dog is as dumb as a stump. One of those non stop yappers. To shut him up I use to put a mirror on the floor so he could see his own reflection ans would get so scared he would stop his constant yapping.
Fast forword five years and they are moving into a new house in rural Kent. They let the sorry excuse of a dog out of the car and he immediately ran straight for the neighbors horses. I seconds there where five horses in a circle surrounding him trying to pummel him into the dirt. The odd thing is they were using their knees not their hooves? I had never seen anything like that before. I swear it was almost like hey were playing a game of horse hockey and he was the puck, LOL. Though it was entertaining to watch we had to save him. He was bruised up pretty bad but nothing serious.

Back to the subject of dogs running deer, I never found out what the law was, but I was always told when I was learning to hunt, that if you see a dog running deer, it was your obligation to stop it anyway you can including shooting the dog as a last resort. Every time I have seen this except on one occasion it has been multiple dogs in a pack running the deer. I have not had a weapon on me at those times, but I was mad enough to do something. The one time it was a single dog, was in Belfair at a Friends house late and we heard a squealing out in the pasture. We ran outside and here was a Pitbull locked onto the neck of a doe hanging off the ground. He had obviously been there a while. I would have shot that dog in a second if we had a weapon. It took a few whacks with an aluminum bat to get him to let go. The deer was spinning away from us so we could not get a solid hit to the dog. The dog finally ran off. I found out later that the owner encouraged this behavior. The doe ran into the trees but I do not think she made it.  

[Alchase]

I believe most dogs will bark and chase to some extent. I do not think they fall into the category that need extreme recourse. If that same dog is packing up with others and running deer that would be more likely to get an extreme response from me. Obviously if Fifi the toy poodle was chasing it would not even be a concern.
The responsibility here should be on the owners of the dog, it is to bad the dog has to pay when the owner should be responsible.

[Ray]

For the most part I think a deer can handle itself in most situations with a dog. Probably by simply running away.

Each situation probably dictates different actions for either the owner, the dog or in some other capacity. Shooting someone's dog should be the last resort. Otherwise the shooter in some cases might be just as irresponsible as the dog owner.

Anyone who is intentionally chasing animals with their dogs illegally well.... they probably should be reported. I am not a cop so I probably would just mind my own business on public land for the most part. They always have the snitch phone hotline for that sort of thing if it really bothered me...

[Dman]

 This is a touchy subject for me. When I was four, I got off the bus on the way home from school and was attacked by a neighbor's roaming Shepherd, bit through the face, chest and back, 67 stitches. Dr's said 15 more minute's. I'd have bled to death. Dog's are a deadly weapon and understandably, it makes my blood boil when people leave them unleashed to roam public areas. I also lived on a 5 acre mini farm growing up and we had a neighboring dog killing our calves and goats for sport until I finally followed him home and confronted the owner. Dog's have a place and it's in your yard behind a fence, or on a leash, unless you are hunting, or on your own property and the dog is at heel. That's about all I can add. I do like dog's also and am looking for a lab after the Holidays, they can be great pets, it's all about the owner.....

[runningboard]

long standing unwritten rule in small community I live in is shoot deer-chasing dogs, plural, not a single pet that happens upon a deer while walking with it's owner. I grew up in more rural area where this can be a big problem with dogs packing up and chasing deer. My sister-in-law asked me how I can think like that and still want pets of my own? I replied that if I let them run loose and not know where they are or what they're up to I "EXPECT" bad things to happen to them. have experienced the bad too though, my boxer was let out to empty his bladder and made his way to neighbors who had a bitch in heat, he got in a scrap with their pitbull and their kid got scared for his dog and tried to break it up, he got bit and they shot my dog saying that he was attacking the boy. I know otherwise 'cause the boy told me himself when I went to the hospital to apologize and to let them know he had all of his shots. again, I should have escorted my dog out knowing about the dog-in-heat a couple of miles up the road. it all comes back to the owner.

[Ray]

shoot deer-chasing dogs, plural, not a single pet that happens upon a deer while walking with it's owner

Finally a good example that I can agree with. Probably the one which should have accompanied the beginning of the thread. To be honest the original statement which started this topic sounding like someone was fishing for a consensus so they could or would go out and shoot any rogue dog that they didn't like. 

if I let them run loose and not know where they are or what they're up to I "EXPECT" bad things to happen to them

I agree with that 100%.

[Palmer]

I've read that feral Dogs packing up can be the most dangerous scenario in the woods, right up with sow grizzlies and cow moose.

[Palmer]

Finally a good example that I can agree with. Probably the one which should have accompanied the beginning of the thread. To be honest the original statement which started this topic sounding like someone was fishing for a consensus so they could or would go out and shoot any rogue dog that they didn't like. 

I agree as well.  I started the thread with such a statement because I have had more than one hunter inform me they shoot any dog they see running down deer.  Now sometimes people make broad statements and don't get specific. I'm glad I brought this up.  I like what people have written on this thread.