Someone has set a blind right next to my stand

[cryder]

Well there u have it ! Like previously injected into this system , we're all headed down that final and same road , where we all meat n say hey wasn't that fun ? But it will be the end if it all , no place to hunt ,that guy in the blind is just saying hey I'm in line before u !? CRyder out ! Compleatly 🤣😃😅😫😫

[Sandberm]

 I cant wait for opening day...oh I'm not hunting...I just want to hear how this Jakewebb vs blind guy drama unfolds .

 

[TheStovePipeKid]

I cant wait for opening day...oh I'm not hunting...I just want to hear how this Jakewebb vs blind guy drama unfolds .

I don't want to ruin it for anyone, but they kiss in the end

[ghosthunter]

I know for sure that it wasn’t a spot he’s been hunting the last five years or so because I’ve been hunting it since 2013 just about everyday of archery season. I’ve pulled a handful of elk out of there in that span. I hunt it every year with my buddy and dad. There is 2 stands about 100 yards apart and 2 mineral blocks. The only way to where his blind is, is to walk past my buddies stand, to my stand, and there are cameras at both. As well as matted down area around the blocks. Pretty hard to miss. As tibthe previous comment and ones like it, I don’t think anyone is saying they own any public land or can keep anyone out of an area. We’re simply saying it’s not the best practice to insert yourself into someone hard work and valuable time. If I was to come upon any stands in the woods and there was ANY sign that it was used or maintained I wouldn’t go there. I mean if he had put the blind 200 yards away I really wouldn’t care. But that’s not the case. Anywho I think most of us can agree that we wouldn’t personally do this and that we also wouldn’t do anything malicious to the person that has. For me it really sucks but I know that’s how it is sometimes and I just have to continue to outwork the others and earn it. I’m not just going to give the spot away, but I do plan on being the first one in the woods on the opener. Also although I don’t consider myself a “flat brimmer” as it’s been called, I am in my mid 20s and have plenty of friend who I’d say are in that category but that doesn’t make them bad people or bad hunters. I just think there’s a perspective difference and they just need some good examples set, these scenarios don’t help.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Flatbrimmer

[CoryTDF]

It sounded like you felt you needed to crowd in on others bait sites because that’s where all the animals were at regardless of bait being placed there?Maybe mix some sweet cob in the garbanzos and establish a new site a few miles away from other hunters and draw the game there? I might have misunderstood what you were getting at but sounded like you felt like you needed to be on top of others established spots because that’s where all the game was. Glad your having success

The problem I had was smaller properties that had all the productive areas claimed.  The areas are productive even if there is no bait. But because they put bait there , they seem to think they own it. (This was whitetail hunting) This is not Backcountry hunting where you can hike a few miles and establish a new spot. So as a new hunter I ran into other hunters spots. I  was very familiar with the area as I lived close by.  I knew the major deer crossings and that's what I hunted , other hunters had moved in before season setup bait and stands in areas that have activity year-round. The bait was not attracting them, it was just an appetizer on the way to the fields

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Man you are something else kid. You have like 30 posts on HW and they almost all have to do with baiting and your BS idea of just walking into an area and hunting over bait you did not place. Would have just sent you a PM but you just like to copy and paste them back into the threads so I'll save you the time.

When I met you, you were hunting over a bait pile that I had established, first, before any others. It had been going for 3 years prior to you showing up. You came to a stand I hunted nearly every night and dropped a huge chunk of molasses corn right on top of my bait and decided to hunt it. Glad you learned to use a better bait BTW. You come on on HW trying to justify your actions but you are just not telling the whole story. Yeah, you had seen deer in the area, makes sense because there was an active bait site there for years, developed and maintained by me. 

You represent a crowd of entitled millennial style attitudes that I can only believe thinks it unfair that their hard work is not something you get to share. You have it all wrong and someday I hope you walk into a kid in your stand so you can feel the frustration. I am positive if you had actually don't the work yourself you would understand the frustration. You are the definition of the person that has to actually touch the stove themselves.

You talk about "communicating" and "talking" to the other stand owner yet you made not attempt to do that. Had you left a note with a number or waited at the parking area to talk to me like a man, before you hunted over my bait, camera and stand, you would have had a different conversation. Instead you chose to just walk up and take advantage of someone elses handwork, time, and money. I have always let others hunt my stands after my wife and I have killed our deer. The list of people that have shot deer out of my stands is long. I am a generous person with both my knowledge and efforts. That stand was established for my wife and had been a good thing for her for a years. Our interaction and your disrespectful tactics turned my wife away from hunting for the rest of that year.   

You live in one of the primer areas of Washington and though land is limited it is available if you work at it. From reading your posts I gather that your whole hunting tactic seems to be waiting for others to establish a bait and wait for a change in deer routes. You then come in and capitalize on someone else hard work with no remorse.  I am confident that if your attitude does not change you will have long history of conflict with other hunters. You are playing a dangerous game as many people are not as level headed as I am. I find you to be disrespectful, lazy, inconsiderate, lacking ethics and without honor.

I have wasted all the time I care to waste on talking this issue out with you. I sincerely hope that the other good folks of HW never have to deal with people like you.

[JJB11B]

It sounded like you felt you needed to crowd in on others bait sites because that’s where all the animals were at regardless of bait being placed there?Maybe mix some sweet cob in the garbanzos and establish a new site a few miles away from other hunters and draw the game there? I might have misunderstood what you were getting at but sounded like you felt like you needed to be on top of others established spots because that’s where all the game was. Glad your having success

The problem I had was smaller properties that had all the productive areas claimed.  The areas are productive even if there is no bait. But because they put bait there , they seem to think they own it. (This was whitetail hunting) This is not Backcountry hunting where you can hike a few miles and establish a new spot. So as a new hunter I ran into other hunters spots. I  was very familiar with the area as I lived close by.  I knew the major deer crossings and that's what I hunted , other hunters had moved in before season setup bait and stands in areas that have activity year-round. The bait was not attracting them, it was just an appetizer on the way to the fields

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Man you are something else kid. You have like 30 posts on HW and they almost all have to do with baiting and your BS idea of just walking into an area and hunting over bait you did not place. Would have just sent you a PM but you just like to copy and paste them back into the threads so I'll save you the time.

When I met you, you were hunting over a bait pile that I had established, first, before any others. It had been going for 3 years prior to you showing up. You came to a stand I hunted nearly every night and dropped a huge chunk of molasses corn right on top of my bait and decided to hunt it. Glad you learned to use a better bait BTW. You on on HW trying to justify your actions but you are just not telling the whole story. Yeah, you had seen deer in the area, makes sense because there was an active bait site there for years, developed and maintained by me. 

You represent a crowd of entitled millennial style attitudes that I can only believe thinks it unfair that their hard work is not something you get to share. You have it all wrong and someday I hope you walk into a kid in your stand so you can feel the frustration. I am positive if you had actually don't the work yourself you would understand the frustration. You are the definition of the person that has to actually touch the stove themselves.

You talk about "communicating" and "talking" to the other stand owner yet you made not attempt to do that. Had you left a note with a number or waited at the parking area to talk to me like a man, before you hunted over my bait, camera and stand, you would have had a different conversation. Instead you chose to just walk up and take advantage of someone elses handwork, time, and money. I have always let others hunt my stands after my wife and I have killed our deer. The list of people that have shot deer out of my stands is long. I am a generous person with both my knowledge and efforts. That stand was established for my wife and had been a good thing for her for a years. Our interaction and your disrespectful tactics turned my wife away from hunting for the rest of that year.   

You live in one of the primer areas of Washington and though land is limited it is available if you work at it. From reading your posts I gather that your whole hunting tactic seems to be waiting for others to establish a bait and wait for a change in deer routes. You then come in and capitalize on someone else hard work with no remorse.  I am confident that if your attitude does not change you will have long history of conflict with other hunters. You are playing a dangerous game as many people are not as level headed as I am. I find you to be disrespectful, lazy, inconsiderate, lacking ethics and without honor.

I have wasted all the time I care to waste on talking this issue out with you. I sincerely hope that the other good folks of HW never have to deal with people like you.

I remember you letting me hunt At Least 3 different stand in the 12 plus years I have known you, when I am striking out I have always been able to throw a lifeline your way. Just sayin'

[CoryTDF]

It sounded like you felt you needed to crowd in on others bait sites because that’s where all the animals were at regardless of bait being placed there?Maybe mix some sweet cob in the garbanzos and establish a new site a few miles away from other hunters and draw the game there? I might have misunderstood what you were getting at but sounded like you felt like you needed to be on top of others established spots because that’s where all the game was. Glad your having success

The problem I had was smaller properties that had all the productive areas claimed.  The areas are productive even if there is no bait. But because they put bait there , they seem to think they own it. (This was whitetail hunting) This is not Backcountry hunting where you can hike a few miles and establish a new spot. So as a new hunter I ran into other hunters spots. I  was very familiar with the area as I lived close by.  I knew the major deer crossings and that's what I hunted , other hunters had moved in before season setup bait and stands in areas that have activity year-round. The bait was not attracting them, it was just an appetizer on the way to the fields

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Man you are something else kid. You have like 30 posts on HW and they almost all have to do with baiting and your BS idea of just walking into an area and hunting over bait you did not place. Would have just sent you a PM but you just like to copy and paste them back into the threads so I'll save you the time.

When I met you, you were hunting over a bait pile that I had established, first, before any others. It had been going for 3 years prior to you showing up. You came to a stand I hunted nearly every night and dropped a huge chunk of molasses corn right on top of my bait and decided to hunt it. Glad you learned to use a better bait BTW. You on on HW trying to justify your actions but you are just not telling the whole story. Yeah, you had seen deer in the area, makes sense because there was an active bait site there for years, developed and maintained by me. 

You represent a crowd of entitled millennial style attitudes that I can only believe thinks it unfair that their hard work is not something you get to share. You have it all wrong and someday I hope you walk into a kid in your stand so you can feel the frustration. I am positive if you had actually don't the work yourself you would understand the frustration. You are the definition of the person that has to actually touch the stove themselves.

You talk about "communicating" and "talking" to the other stand owner yet you made not attempt to do that. Had you left a note with a number or waited at the parking area to talk to me like a man, before you hunted over my bait, camera and stand, you would have had a different conversation. Instead you chose to just walk up and take advantage of someone elses handwork, time, and money. I have always let others hunt my stands after my wife and I have killed our deer. The list of people that have shot deer out of my stands is long. I am a generous person with both my knowledge and efforts. That stand was established for my wife and had been a good thing for her for a years. Our interaction and your disrespectful tactics turned my wife away from hunting for the rest of that year.   

You live in one of the primer areas of Washington and though land is limited it is available if you work at it. From reading your posts I gather that your whole hunting tactic seems to be waiting for others to establish a bait and wait for a change in deer routes. You then come in and capitalize on someone else hard work with no remorse.  I am confident that if your attitude does not change you will have long history of conflict with other hunters. You are playing a dangerous game as many people are not as level headed as I am. I find you to be disrespectful, lazy, inconsiderate, lacking ethics and without honor.

I have wasted all the time I care to waste on talking this issue out with you. I sincerely hope that the other good folks of HW never have to deal with people like you.

I remember you letting me hunt At Least 3 different stand in the 12 plus years I have known you, when I am striking out I have always been able to throw a lifeline your way. Just sayin'

As I always will bud. Love helping people out. Especially the ones that respectfully ask for that help.

[Matth]

This entire thread makes me happy that i hunt the national forest of sw Washington where the deer, and elk numbers are way down, so i don't half to deal with this very often. I did manage to stumble into someones elk stand the opening morning about 13 years ago without knowing it, and the fellow called me every name in the book as he stomped out of the woods. his blind was set up aprox 75 yards off of the main road, and he had parked nearly a mile away from it, and walked into it in the dark, which made good sense. I just had no idea where he was at, and came off the main road directly on top of him.

To top it all off when he got to his pickup he drove almost a mile back to mine, backed up to it and sprayed it with gravel breaking my wind shield, then honked his horn all the way off of the mountain. The kicker is that i was in that spot the weekend before scouting, and there was no blind, or bait pile. It was a complete accident, and had i known he was in there i would have gladly moved on. but he sure did get pissed

[RookieBow1967]

It sounded like you felt you needed to crowd in on others bait sites because that’s where all the animals were at regardless of bait being placed there?Maybe mix some sweet cob in the garbanzos and establish a new site a few miles away from other hunters and draw the game there? I might have misunderstood what you were getting at but sounded like you felt like you needed to be on top of others established spots because that’s where all the game was. Glad your having success

The problem I had was smaller properties that had all the productive areas claimed.  The areas are productive even if there is no bait. But because they put bait there , they seem to think they own it. (This was whitetail hunting) This is not Backcountry hunting where you can hike a few miles and establish a new spot. So as a new hunter I ran into other hunters spots. I  was very familiar with the area as I lived close by.  I knew the major deer crossings and that's what I hunted , other hunters had moved in before season setup bait and stands in areas that have activity year-round. The bait was not attracting them, it was just an appetizer on the way to the fields

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Man you are something else kid. You have like 30 posts on HW and they almost all have to do with baiting and your BS idea of just walking into an area and hunting over bait you did not place. Would have just sent you a PM but you just like to copy and paste them back into the threads so I'll save you the time.

When I met you, you were hunting over a bait pile that I had established, first, before any others. It had been going for 3 years prior to you showing up. You came to a stand I hunted nearly every night and dropped a huge chunk of molasses corn right on top of my bait and decided to hunt it. Glad you learned to use a better bait BTW. You come on on HW trying to justify your actions but you are just not telling the whole story. Yeah, you had seen deer in the area, makes sense because there was an active bait site there for years, developed and maintained by me. 

You represent a crowd of entitled millennial style attitudes that I can only believe thinks it unfair that their hard work is not something you get to share. You have it all wrong and someday I hope you walk into a kid in your stand so you can feel the frustration. I am positive if you had actually don't the work yourself you would understand the frustration. You are the definition of the person that has to actually touch the stove themselves.

You talk about "communicating" and "talking" to the other stand owner yet you made not attempt to do that. Had you left a note with a number or waited at the parking area to talk to me like a man, before you hunted over my bait, camera and stand, you would have had a different conversation. Instead you chose to just walk up and take advantage of someone elses handwork, time, and money. I have always let others hunt my stands after my wife and I have killed our deer. The list of people that have shot deer out of my stands is long. I am a generous person with both my knowledge and efforts. That stand was established for my wife and had been a good thing for her for a years. Our interaction and your disrespectful tactics turned my wife away from hunting for the rest of that year.   

You live in one of the primer areas of Washington and though land is limited it is available if you work at it. From reading your posts I gather that your whole hunting tactic seems to be waiting for others to establish a bait and wait for a change in deer routes. You then come in and capitalize on someone else hard work with no remorse.  I am confident that if your attitude does not change you will have long history of conflict with other hunters. You are playing a dangerous game as many people are not as level headed as I am. I find you to be disrespectful, lazy, inconsiderate, lacking ethics and without honor.

I have wasted all the time I care to waste on talking this issue out with you. I sincerely hope that the other good folks of HW never have to deal with people like you.

I do regret our interaction and I have no hard feelings towards you. I have learned new spots that there are less hunters but it takes time. The point I am trying to make is placing bait does not grant ownership of a spot. As you said it's a great area but land availability is limited. As for your bait pile attracting deer that's a stretch. The bedding area is on private land across the road there is only so many spots the deer cross the road to access the fields you are set up on.

The spot is  110.6  yards from the road and it's not like I'm seeking out other people's spots, you are on the road. I have not had any other conflicts with hunters because I cultivate multiple spots.

As for the posts your right, I spend a lot of time talking about baiting. I wish to understand why you guys so fiercely claim land and I want to show you there is two sides to the discussion. It is a discussion, I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not saying I'm wrong.

I had a good conversation with another member on this issue. That is why I'm on this forum to talk with other members and gain a better understanding and perspective of hunting.

 As I said before I hope your hunting goes well and I'm sorry our confrontation dissuaded your wife from hunting. Best of luck this season!

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[jakeweb]

OP HERE. I’m in my stand 3:51 am. Waiting on elk and the infamous blind guy to walk in. Obviously hoping he doesn’t show up but doubting that’ll happen. On the drive here I was thinking. This is a cow only unit unless you’re one of the lucky few tag holders. Would if he’s got a tag? And we’re hunting different animals. Do I just let him hunt with no fuss? Not sure. Anyways I’ll try to let y’all know at the end of the day how it went down. Then once I do I’ll ask that this thread be deleted since it has become a arguing ground for personal issues.

[TVHunts]

Best of luck Jakeweb!

[ThurstonCokid]

Good luck man. Hope for the best possible outcome


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[jakeweb]

This blind is shiny new and smells like the cabelas showroom floor. And it’s not brushed up at all..just hanging out there. So little effort.

[jakeweb]

And thanks guys! Good luck to all of you out there today!

[Mr Mykiss]

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