Spring bear survey

[Bango skank]

Now that the proposal is out, im just curious to see how people responded to the survey.  Poll up top.  Survey.  https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GBQYXCN

[johnnyaustin44]

I agreed with added tags but felt like there should of been every unit in the state getting added tags for spring. I also don’t agree with the pelt sealing. 90% of the time the hide stays in the woods with me. How many rugs/soft tans does a guy need. Especially when you actually target bears, killing a couple a year isn’t as difficult as it seems.

[Stein]

I took it in support.  More tags and more areas open are better.  It's easier to deal with the minor stuff in the future than it is to increase tags or areas.  I'll probably never agree 100% with a proposal, but it looked like a step in the right direction.

[Bango skank]

I took it in support.  More tags and more areas open are better. 

Except we have the same number of areas open, and a total of 111 less tags.

[Special T]

Is it possible the data from the mandatory sex/hide inspections will be used to support future changes?

Isn't one of the biggest concerns that too many females will be harvested during the spring?

It looks like the Monroe tags are not coming back anytime soon. 

[X-Force]

I surveyed against. We have a state wide 2 bear fall season we should be able to carry that into the spring as well. Hunter success would go way up in the spring if people were able to harvest 2 bears. The draw odds aren’t good so when people draw they treat it like a trophy tag and hold out for a large bear. Most people eat it. If we could harvest 2 bears lots of people would harvest one bear then hold out for a large one

[Stein]

I took it in support.  More tags and more areas open are better. 

Except we have the same number of areas open, and a total of 111 less tags.

Maybe I should have read closer.    Here is what I saw:

The purpose of the proposed amendments are to align the rules with the appropriate season dates; increased permit numbers in areas where needed, open a new hunt area to address needs, and expand and improve upon information and biological samples collected from harvest bears through a pelt check (with evidence of animal sex included).

Added language to adjust the numbers of permits offered in:
Blue Creek, GMU 154 increased permits from 15 to 18
Dayton, GMU 162 increased permits from 15 to 18
Wenaha, GMU 169 increased permits 45 to 60
Mt. View, GMU 172 increased permits 15 to 24
Lick Creek, GMU 175 increased permits 15 to 18
Added a new hunt area: Peola, GMU 178 with five permits
Remove Kapowsin hunt area

How many permits were in Kapowsin?  If there was a reduction in permits by that much, the survey wasn't exactly forthcoming about that.  It mentioned Kapowsin was being closed on request of the land manager, so that may be going away either way. 

[Bango skank]

150 in kapowsin.  Theyre all gone.  They added a total of 39 in se units, so a net loss of 111 permits.  Its all right there in the proposal.  Did you take the survey without actually reading the proposal?

[buckfvr]

I support hunting bears as the predator they are and not purely as a big game trophy.........ya if you kill a big one, great, have it scored, have a rug or mount done, whatever.  Me......its another predator thats ruining the deer, elk, and moose hunting.

[Bango skank]

Here is a link to the proposal.  If you havent read through it yet, please do so before taking the survey.  https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/development#19-13-096

[JakeLand]

I opposed it ! With the little information that there was and how fewer tags and the Monroe unit still not open

[Stein]

150 in kapowsin.  Theyre all gone.  They added a total of 39 in se units, so a net loss of 111 permits.  Its all right there in the proposal.  Did you take the survey without actually reading the proposal?

I did.  My understanding of it was that the Kapowsin permits were going away per the land manager, so that would happen regardless of what anyone thinks since those permits are all for tree farm land.

[BULLBLASTER]

150 in kapowsin.  Theyre all gone.  They added a total of 39 in se units, so a net loss of 111 permits.  Its all right there in the proposal.  Did you take the survey without actually reading the proposal?

I did.  My understanding of it was that the Kapowsin permits were going away per the land manager, so that would happen regardless of what anyone thinks since those permits are all for tree farm land.

I commented that if they don’t want general public hunters in there then they shouldn’t be able to run feed stations or run hounds either. 

[KFhunter]

150 in kapowsin.  Theyre all gone.  They added a total of 39 in se units, so a net loss of 111 permits.  Its all right there in the proposal.  Did you take the survey without actually reading the proposal?

I did.  My understanding of it was that the Kapowsin permits were going away per the land manager, so that would happen regardless of what anyone thinks since those permits are all for tree farm land.

Ya, no.

I've always had a problem with timber companies baiting for bear and just killing them when hunters could do it and pay the state to do it.  If they want more success, allow hunters to bait and run hounds on a damage permit but I'm sick of timber companies getting aphis to do it on taxpayer dime and can't use the carcass for anything.

This survey removes a lot of bear hunting opportunity from hunters, and gives APHIS a lot more bears to kill around bait stations. 

loose loose!

[hunter399]

150 in kapowsin.  Theyre all gone.  They added a total of 39 in se units, so a net loss of 111 permits.  Its all right there in the proposal.  Did you take the survey without actually reading the proposal?

I did.  My understanding of it was that the Kapowsin permits were going away per the land manager, so that would happen regardless of what anyone thinks since those permits are all for tree farm land.

Ya, no.

I've always had a problem with timber companies baiting for bear and just killing them when hunters could do it and pay the state to do it.  If they want more success, allow hunters to bait and run hounds on a damage permit but I'm sick of timber companies getting aphis to do it on taxpayer dime and can't use the carcass for anything.

This survey removes a lot of bear hunting opportunity from hunters, and gives APHIS a lot more bears to kill around bait stations. 

loose loose!

I'm sick of it as well.Timber company's a.k.a (oj simpson) of bear baiting and hound hunting.Just cause you own tons of land and have dump trucks of money doesn't give you the right to break Washington laws.In the mean time take hunting opportunity away from hunters.BS all the way around.