establishing pheasant habitat in turkeyville..

[KFhunter]

Is it possible to establish a pheasant population with so many turkey? 


I'm wanting to establish permanent nesting pheasant habitat, but I'm thinking I'll have to settle for pen raised release birds.  I'd like them to be as close to wild as possible. 

[Special T]

I'm sure that this could be reverse engendered with what's available.

https://wildlifemanagementtechnologies.com/products/traditional-surrogator

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[KFhunter]

My focus was on the habitat itself and if turkeys could be kept from eating the nesting pheasant eggs by planting something thick enough the turkeys avoid going into.  Just wondering if anyone here as established a permanent population of pheasant in the presence of turkey. 



I see on other sites they talk about pheasant populations cratering with the arrival of turkey, and plenty of discussion about the same happening with grouse and other ground nesting birds. 

[Dan-o]

Interesting.

I know very little about turkey/pheasant dynamics, but I do know that I hunt an area that is infested with turkeys north of Spokane, and there are always pheasant around.

So they can coexist.

Good luck.   It would be cool if it worked for you.

[KFhunter]

found this  (turkeys do not harm eggs or hatchlings)

https://pheasantsforever.org/BlogLanding/Blogs/Field-Notes/Five-Widespread-Myths-about-Pheasant-Quail-Populat.aspx?feed=articles


but also found this  (turkeys eat pheasant eggs and raid other nests)

https://www.indianasportsman.com/threads/do-turkeys-destroy-pheasant-nests.20215/

[Dan-o]

I think the turkeys where I hunt read the first article.

[WaltAlpine]

Interesting.

I know very little about turkey/pheasant dynamics, but I do know that I hunt an area that is infested with turkeys north of Spokane, and there are always pheasant around.

So they can coexist.

Good luck.   It would be cool if it worked for you.

"Infested"
Did you get some PMs for locations after you used that word in relation to wildlife?

[nwwanderer]

The right food plot stuff will help a bunch, Sweet clover and great basin wild rye come to mind.  The grass for winter cover and the clover for cover and insect food for the chicks.
Any competition I see between the two would be winter related.