Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?

[bigtex]

Is it public land,  or is it land owned by wdfw?  I believe this would make the difference,  just how any business can ask you to leave if you are carrying,  their land their rules. If it is public owned land,  then i don't know if they could stop you legally.

The two things you mentioned are the same thing. Land owned by WDFW is public land. Public land is owned by some agency. There's no difference.

Public land is owned by the people of the united states of America, and managed by agencies like the USFS and BLM. US government cannot own land, just manage public land.  State government like wdfw can own land and do with it as the please,  there for it is not public land,  it is private land that generally allows public access.

Sorry but that's incorrect. Call up the local county assessor's office and they'll set you straight.

Some states (like Colorado) do not allow public access to most state land, but this discussion isn't about Colorado.

[ctwiggs1]

Is it public land,  or is it land owned by wdfw?  I believe this would make the difference,  just how any business can ask you to leave if you are carrying,  their land their rules. If it is public owned land,  then i don't know if they could stop you legally.

The two things you mentioned are the same thing. Land owned by WDFW is public land. Public land is owned by some agency. There's no difference.

Public land is owned by the people of the united states of America, and managed by agencies like the USFS and BLM. US government cannot own land, just manage public land.  State government like wdfw can own land and do with it as the please,  there for it is not public land,  it is private land that generally allows public access.

Now I’m really confused?

So is he. 

Any land that we the people own is public.  Not all public land has the same rules.

An elementary school is public land.  So is the Wenatchee National Forest. You can target shoot at one of these locations, and you’ll be arrested for carrying a gun on to the other.

[bigtex]

Those signs have been around for decades, some say no traps as well. As far as your question goes I’d imagine it would be hard for them to enforce you carrying for personal protection but 

Basically they are old signs from a time when people would simply follow the orders of the sign and wouldn't think anything of it (sorry but it's true.)

It would be enforced under WAC 220-500-030(3) which states: "Pursuant to RCW 77.15.230, it is unlawful to use department lands in a manner or for a purpose contrary to signs or notices posted on those lands, waters, or access areas. Violating this subsection is a misdemeanor, pursuant to RCW 77.15.230"

That being said, as long as it looks like you are just carrying for personal protection and not actively hunting you'd be hardpressed to have an LEO hassle you about it.

[Calvin Rayborn]

No need to be confused.  Here is how i determine if i can carry a gun somewhere.  Its a simple proccess really.

Are there armed guards manning a metal detector at the entrance?  If no, im carrying.

I hear ya! I honestly want them to take those signs down if WDFW is making a false statement, which is what I believe they are doing in this case. Anyone can put up an official-looking sign, doesn’t mean they have the law to back it up.

[bigtex]

   Looks like WDFW Took control of  it outright with land donations from the Bureau of reclamation and state fund purchases?

The majority of it is BOR land which is managed by WDFW, that's why the website you stated says "Billy Clapp Lake Unit was transferred to WDFW control through a Memorandum of Understanding with the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation". Of the 4,000 acres within the unit only 290 acres is actually owned by WDFW, the rest is BOR owned but simply managed by WDFW. In reality, the vast majority of WDFW lands/wildlife areas in the Columbia Basin are actually not owned by WDFW but rather by BOR. However, for over 60 years there's been an agreement between WDFW and BOR where BOR will "own" the land but WDFW will "manage" the land.

[the1rod]

Is it public land,  or is it land owned by wdfw?  I believe this would make the difference,  just how any business can ask you to leave if you are carrying,  their land their rules. If it is public owned land,  then i don't know if they could stop you legally.

The two things you mentioned are the same thing. Land owned by WDFW is public land. Public land is owned by some agency. There's no difference.

Public land is owned by the people of the united states of America, and managed by agencies like the USFS and BLM. US government cannot own land, just manage public land.  State government like wdfw can own land and do with it as the please,  there for it is not public land,  it is private land that generally allows public access.

Sorry but that's incorrect. Call up the local county assessor's office and they'll set you straight.

Some states (like Colorado) do not allow public access to most state land, but this discussion isn't about Colorado.

Your the only one here talking about Colorado,  don't know why you brought it up 
My whole point was the difference between public land,  and state owned. And as I stated if it's state land,  then they can decide what you can and can't do on it.

[Calvin Rayborn]

Is it public land,  or is it land owned by wdfw?  I believe this would make the difference,  just how any business can ask you to leave if you are carrying,  their land their rules. If it is public owned land,  then i don't know if they could stop you legally.

The two things you mentioned are the same thing. Land owned by WDFW is public land. Public land is owned by some agency. There's no difference.

Public land is owned by the people of the united states of America, and managed by agencies like the USFS and BLM. US government cannot own land, just manage public land.  State government like wdfw can own land and do with it as the please,  there for it is not public land,  it is private land that generally allows public access.

Now I’m really confused?

So is he. 

Any land that we the people own is public.  Not all public land has the same rules.

An elementary school is public land.  So is the Wenatchee National Forest. You can target shoot at one of these locations, and you’ll be arrested for carrying a gun on to the other.

Yeah, that didn’t make much sense to me I think it even said something on the DFW page like “use your public lands wisely” or something like that. I also understand as well that certain public lands are off-limits to firearms; I just couldn’t find anything in any state laws whatsoever that gave DFW the right to restrict firearms on any WDFW controlled public land. Plenty of RCW’s on hunting restrictions and legal/illegal wildlife handling/transportation, but nothing specifically prohibiting firearms themselves.

[Bango skank]

Is it public land,  or is it land owned by wdfw?  I believe this would make the difference,  just how any business can ask you to leave if you are carrying,  their land their rules. If it is public owned land,  then i don't know if they could stop you legally.

The two things you mentioned are the same thing. Land owned by WDFW is public land. Public land is owned by some agency. There's no difference.

Public land is owned by the people of the united states of America, and managed by agencies like the USFS and BLM. US government cannot own land, just manage public land.  State government like wdfw can own land and do with it as the please,  there for it is not public land,  it is private land that generally allows public access.

Now I’m really confused?

So is he. 

Any land that we the people own is public.  Not all public land has the same rules.

An elementary school is public land.  So is the Wenatchee National Forest. You can target shoot at one of these locations, and you’ll be arrested for carrying a gun on to the other.

Public schools being "gun free zones" is federal law.  There is no federal law against carrying a gun on a wdfw wildlife area.

[Calvin Rayborn]

   Looks like WDFW Took control of  it outright with land donations from the Bureau of reclamation and state fund purchases?

The majority of it is BOR land which is managed by WDFW, that's why the website you stated says "Billy Clapp Lake Unit was transferred to WDFW control through a Memorandum of Understanding with the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation". Of the 4,000 acres within the unit only 290 acres is actually owned by WDFW, the rest is BOR owned but simply managed by WDFW. In reality, the vast majority of WDFW lands/wildlife areas in the Columbia Basin are actually not owned by WDFW but rather by BOR. However, for over 60 years there's been an agreement between WDFW and BOR where BOR will "own" the land but WDFW will "manage" the land.

Great! So what’s the Bureau of Reclamation’s stance on firearms? WDFW is the entity that put up the sign...

[the1rod]

Is it public land,  or is it land owned by wdfw?  I believe this would make the difference,  just how any business can ask you to leave if you are carrying,  their land their rules. If it is public owned land,  then i don't know if they could stop you legally.

The two things you mentioned are the same thing. Land owned by WDFW is public land. Public land is owned by some agency. There's no difference.

Public land is owned by the people of the united states of America, and managed by agencies like the USFS and BLM. US government cannot own land, just manage public land.  State government like wdfw can own land and do with it as the please,  there for it is not public land,  it is private land that generally allows public access.

Now I’m really confused?

So is he. 

Any land that we the people own is public.  Not all public land has the same rules.

An elementary school is public land.  So is the Wenatchee National Forest. You can target shoot at one of these locations, and you’ll be arrested for carrying a gun on to the other.

And just what am I confused about?  "any land that we the people own is public land"  your quote,  but isn't that the same thing I said?  I was defining the difference between state owned land and public land,  I'm sorry I didn't go into every detail and every exception like schools, that have nothing to do with the conversation.

[Calvin Rayborn]

Chevy rod  - You said that WDFW land That was state purchased was private land, that’s what I was confused about?

[bigtex]

Is it public land,  or is it land owned by wdfw?  I believe this would make the difference,  just how any business can ask you to leave if you are carrying,  their land their rules. If it is public owned land,  then i don't know if they could stop you legally.

The two things you mentioned are the same thing. Land owned by WDFW is public land. Public land is owned by some agency. There's no difference.

Public land is owned by the people of the united states of America, and managed by agencies like the USFS and BLM. US government cannot own land, just manage public land.  State government like wdfw can own land and do with it as the please,  there for it is not public land,  it is private land that generally allows public access.

Now I’m really confused?

So is he. 

Any land that we the people own is public.  Not all public land has the same rules.

An elementary school is public land.  So is the Wenatchee National Forest. You can target shoot at one of these locations, and you’ll be arrested for carrying a gun on to the other.

And just what am I confused about?  "any land that we the people own is public land"  your quote,  but isn't that the same thing I said?  I was defining the difference between state owned land and public land,  I'm sorry I didn't go into every detail and every exception like schools, that have nothing to do with the conversation.

WA state law does not agree with your personal definitions

RCW 79.02.010(12): "Public lands" means lands of the state of Washington administered by the department including but not limited to state lands, state forestlands, lands included in a state forestland pool, and aquatic lands.

[Calvin Rayborn]

I found the sign online!

[the1rod]

Chevy rod  - You said that WDFW land That was state purchased was private land, that’s what I was confused about?

If it is owned by the state,  then it is their land and they can make the decision on what you can and cannot do on it,  just like you could choose not to allow guns on your property.

Bigtex, the rcw you posted,  is that referring to "public land" as designated by the state of Washington,  or is it referring to public land as owned by we the people? If there is state land that is owned by we the people,  I was not aware of it.

[KFhunter]

I can't see how that sign could preempt your standard 2A lawful carry if you're allowed to be there walking around behind the sign. 

It's not defined in RCW 9.41.300 (gun free zones)