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A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« on: January 13, 2020, 02:22:01 PM »
A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 02:27:19 PM »
From last year, but still one to watch, as WA is circulating legislation to do the same.

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 02:28:59 PM »
From last year, but still one to watch, as WA is circulating legislation to do the same.

Washington Governor Pushes Ban on ‘Assault Weapons,’ ‘High Capacity’ Mags

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/13/washington-governor-pushes-ban-on-assault-weapons-high-capacity-mags/?fbclid=IwAR1MXB8ZdnpdEMWxDMN7_qs42ryCQGQ5GuylUaPEd_Kp775vRATgnWtiIwc

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2020, 02:31:06 PM »
9th Circuit. Damn! Let's hope it stands. Then, screw you, Inslee and your g/f Ferguson.
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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2020, 02:32:16 PM »
So, this isn't current? Did the feds uphold the ban? Disappointing.
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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2020, 02:45:09 PM »
I did some preliminary googling, and I didn't see an update past about mid-year, 2019.  I am hoping it has/had staying power.

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2020, 03:09:05 PM »
Pretty good write-up of the Judge's rationale in that case.

https://reason.com/2019/04/01/here-is-why-a-federal-judge-nixed-califo/

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2020, 03:14:34 PM »
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The case is Duncan v. Becerra, No. 2:17-cv-56-81 in the U.S. District Court for Southern California.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/29/fed-judge-california-high-capacity-magazine-ban-unconstitutional/


And it looks like it is again on appeal to the 9th Circuit.

http://michellawyers.com/duncan-v-becerra/

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2020, 01:28:52 PM »
https://www.weaselzippers.us/454033-breaking-9th-circuit-court-rules-that-ban-on-ammo-magazines-over-10-rounds-is-unconstitutional/

I have not reviewed it yet, but kneejerk, this appears to be a major win.

This is before a panel of judges.  Expect an en banc rehearing request.

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2020, 01:32:20 PM »
Now if cali allowed the peasants to obtain cpls without an act of god, that would be worth something.

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2020, 01:36:33 PM »
Now if cali allowed the peasants to obtain cpls without an act of god, that would be worth something.
Depends where you are. Rural California it's no problem.

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2020, 01:39:57 PM »
Now if cali allowed the peasants to obtain cpls without an act of god, that would be worth something.
Depends where you are. Rural California it's no problem.

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2020, 01:41:38 PM »
After a quick review of the summary, it appears to be tentative good news as it sets up a split as to what level of scrutiny to apply to 2A infringements.

https://dl.airtable.com/.attachments/6d809a9cc6fddb883f29559e63a83234/94d604dc/DuncanvBecerraOpinion.pdf


Here, the court applied a much stronger burden for infringers to overcome.  As noted, it is a tentative victory, because gun grabbers will almost certainly NOT rest on the decision that their infringements are unconstitutional.

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More discussion in Advocacy.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,245935.msg3409249.html#msg3409249

A quick review reveals that it is a victory, if only temporary, in front of a 9th Circuit panel of judges.  I expect CA will request a rehearing before the entire court (en banc).

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A quick review reveals that it is a victory, if only temporary, in front of a 9th Circuit panel of judges.  I expect CA will request a rehearing before the entire court (en banc).

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2020, 02:59:42 PM »
I think I will celebrate with a 6 pack.  Of Magpul PMags.

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2020, 03:37:13 PM »
I was just on grabagun.com and they displayed a banner stating "We ship all sizes of magazines to Cali NOW"
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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2020, 03:55:16 PM »
I think I will celebrate with a 6 pack.  Of Magpul PMags.

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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2020, 04:06:30 PM »
Don't Google 30 round magazine or all you come up with are magazine covers. Commies.
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Re: A federal judge overturns ban on high-capacity magazines in CA
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2020, 11:39:57 PM »
Now if cali allowed the peasants to obtain cpls without an act of god, that would be worth something.
Depends where you are. Rural California it's no problem.

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That's actually not the case. Some of California's rural counties actually have some of the state's highest crime rates. This is pretty good article about the challenges law enforcement face in rural California (low LE staffing/funding, high drug rates, high crime rates, etc.)

https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article230045209.html

 


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