idaho non resident tag decrease, fee increase

[Cougeyes]

Anyone have a good idea how they are proposing to limit hunters per GMU or district? I can't find any info on their actual proposal of how this would be implemented. The intent from my understanding was to reduce overcrowding in some GMUs or districts, but i'm not sure if that means you'll have to select what unit you want to hunt and it'll be first come first serve for a tag, you'll have to draw a general tag for a certain unit or district, or if you'll have to play Russian Roulette with other non-residents to see who comes out on top?? I know they mentioned limiting tag numbers  to no less than 10 percent of the 5-year hunter average within certain areas; again, just not sure how this would be implemented.

https://www.gohunt.com/read/news/idaho-house-approves-decrease-in-nonresident-tags-but-increase-in-fees

[huntnnw]

With deer they were proposing picking a zone like you do with elk now

[Karl Blanchard]

This still just cracks me up. Thousands upon thousands of people move into idaho monthly and many of those are hunters but yeah it's the fault of the capped non resident hunter numbers🤦‍♂️

[Cougeyes]

So if that’s the case for deer it’ll be quota per zone with first come first serve until sold out?

[meatwhack]

They’re proposing capped by zone for deer with 10% tag allocation for non residents of the 5 year historic average of resident hunters in the zone.

[buckfvr]

In other words, theyre going to cost more and theyre going to sell out......idaho is starting to catch on and exploit "supply in demand".

[kentrek]

This will never end...if somthing doesn't come easy it must be someone else's fault..  Idaho has been capped...not sure how overcrowding is just now a problem...it will go the same route as most of the other states and if a guy wants to hunt consistent he will need to have enough money to apply in every state..

This is why your grandkids wont be hunting

[millerwheeler]

This will never end...if somthing doesn't come easy it must be someone else's fault..  Idaho has been capped...not sure how overcrowding is just now a problem...it will go the same route as most of the other states and if a guy wants to hunt consistent he will need to have enough money to apply in every state..

This is why your grandkids wont be hunting

I agree  my son's are gonna have a tough go

[kentrek]

When the general public can no longer hunt they will also no longer vote in favor of hunting....but I dont need to remind anyone here of that

[meatwhack]

Hunting in multiple states has become much more popular in the past few decades than it had ever been historically. This move is more to help disperse hunters more and reduce overcrowding in some of the more popular areas and also get the most money out of the allotted tags that the market will allow.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

This still just cracks me up. Thousands upon thousands of people move into idaho monthly and many of those are hunters but yeah it's the fault of the capped non resident hunter numbers🤦‍♂️

You got that right Karl.  And to top it off it's been several years since all the capped deer tags have been sold out before Aug 1st when they when they are released to be sold as second tags for anyone who wants them, resident and non resident. In fact a lot of the "second tags" are sold to residents so there are even less non residents hunting now than in the past.  If they reduce the number of non res deer tags, they will actually be reducing resident opportunity in the form of those second tags as there will be less extra tags unless Idaho completely loses their minds with the new tag prices.

If Idaho does lose non resident revenue, it will have to be made up by resident hunters. 

[idahohuntr]

This still just cracks me up. Thousands upon thousands of people move into idaho monthly and many of those are hunters but yeah it's the fault of the capped non resident hunter numbers🤦‍♂️

You got that right Karl.  And to top it off it's been several years since all the capped deer tags have been sold out before Aug 1st when they when they are released to be sold as second tags for anyone who wants them, resident and non resident. In fact a lot of the "second tags" are sold to residents so there are even less non residents hunting now than in the past.  If they reduce the number of non res deer tags, they will actually be reducing resident opportunity in the form of those second tags as there will be less extra tags unless Idaho completely loses their minds with the new tag prices.

If Idaho does lose non resident revenue, it will have to be made up by resident hunters.

The higher NR fees are supposed to offset the reduced revenue from fewer tag sales.  Demand will still be high unless the economy collapses like the last time they did a big NR fee hike

[Stein]

Idaho is no different from other big hunting states.  The residents vote and they tell their legislators they want fewer nonresident tags.  They reduce the tags but increase the price since residents also say don't raise my prices.  Until nonresidents vote, it will always be this way.

[Jonathan_S]

This still just cracks me up. Thousands upon thousands of people move into idaho monthly and many of those are hunters but yeah it's the fault of the capped non resident hunter numbers🤦‍♂️

You got that right Karl.  And to top it off it's been several years since all the capped deer tags have been sold out before Aug 1st when they when they are released to be sold as second tags for anyone who wants them, resident and non resident. In fact a lot of the "second tags" are sold to residents so there are even less non residents hunting now than in the past.  If they reduce the number of non res deer tags, they will actually be reducing resident opportunity in the form of those second tags as there will be less extra tags unless Idaho completely loses their minds with the new tag prices.

If Idaho does lose non resident revenue, it will have to be made up by resident hunters.

The higher NR fees are supposed to offset the reduced revenue from fewer tag sales.  Demand will still be high unless the economy collapses like the last time they did a big NR fee hike

Yep and eventually the economy WILL recede and they'll be selling the leftover at reduced prices again.

[Machias]

Idaho is no different from other big hunting states.  The residents vote and they tell their legislators they want fewer nonresident tags.  They reduce the tags but increase the price since residents also say don't raise my prices.  Until nonresidents vote, it will always be this way.

No matter what state I have lived in I have never been able to influence license fees.  I certainly have not been asked about the license increase in the past 18 months while living in Idaho.