Kapowsin and Eatinville open but NOT White River???

[Rookie24]

Gee I wonder what the difference is?? 

The tribe up to shenanigans.... I was told July 1st is the earliest WR opens... IF AT ALL 

Covid19 is the gift that keeps on giving...

[Tikka Bird Dog]

No other logical explanation other than the fact that the owners of WR don't want us in there. Its pretty disheartening to say the least. I grew up on that tree farm before they even had public permits for sale, my olman worked for Weyerhaeuser for almost 30yrs. Its only a matter of time before they won't let anyone non tribal in there at all (just my opinion) They already cut off  30-40% of the tree farm for hunting, shed hunting, berry picking ext. made it a "wild life escapement" area that they still hunt and cut the time you can go in there by 25% by closing it for 3 months. Sad times we live in. That being said, I understand that they own it and can do what they want whether I agree with it or not. 

[trophyhunt]

It is a damn shame the natives bought it, and it will be just a matter of time before they close it down to non natives.

[nwmein199]

It is a damn shame the natives bought it, and it will be just a matter of time before they close it down to non natives.

Are the natives not allowed to buy land and use the land they bought how they want?

[grundy53]

It is a damn shame the natives bought it, and it will be just a matter of time before they close it down to non natives.

Are the natives not allowed to buy land and use the land they bought how they want?

No one said they aren't allowed to buy land or do what they want with it. He said it was a damn shame.  Just like if a developer bought a property you love to hunt and put a hundred houses on it. It would be a damn shame.

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[nwmein199]

It is a damn shame the natives bought it, and it will be just a matter of time before they close it down to non natives.

Are the natives not allowed to buy land and use the land they bought how they want?

No one said they aren't allowed to buy land or do what they want with it. He said it was a damn shame.  Just like if a developer bought a property you love to hunt and put a hundred houses on it. It would be a damn shame.

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  I read it another way but makes sense

[Rookie24]

No other logical explanation other than the fact that the owners of WR don't want us in there.

This IS the only explanation as the cowards at Hancock REFUSE to address it or answer any questions.  Just sent out a quick, vague e-mail and then proceeded to run and hide. I know five people who have asked very simple, polite questions and have not received one reply.

[Rookie24]

So... we have Kapowsin.. Eatonville  AND the Mucks Casino open but NOT the WR tree farm... makes sense. 

[fishnfur]

No other logical explanation other than the fact that the owners of WR don't want us in there.

This IS the only explanation as the cowards at Hancock REFUSE to address it or answer any questions.  Just sent out a quick, vague e-mail and then proceeded to run and hide. I know five people who have asked very simple, polite questions and have not received one reply.

I dunno about all that, but I do know that Hancock and other Commercial Timber companies are in the biz of growing and cutting trees for profit.  Anything outside that falls into public relations and/or other no profit activities, which of course does nothing for their bottom line.  Historically, we hunters have often failed miserably in respecting the property of those companies  I'm sure for them, it is something of a love-hate relationship with hunters.  We help minimize animal damage to their crop trees, but we also cause damage in very many ways.

While I wish the Big Timber lands were still open to free hunting access for all hunters, I also understand that by charging for access, they are increasing their profits and keeping hunters somewhat satisfied with the situation.  Also, by limiting access to their lands, they are reducing the destruction that has, and still does, occur due to granting hunting access.  If they fail to respond to polite questions, I would suggest that beyond taking money and setting rules for access, they probably don't feel they need to spend valuable time  dealing with non-timber activities.  If you don't like the way they operate, then perhaps you should consider finding a different place to hunt.  I'm thinking they would agree with that sentiment. 

[grundy53]

No other logical explanation other than the fact that the owners of WR don't want us in there.

This IS the only explanation as the cowards at Hancock REFUSE to address it or answer any questions.  Just sent out a quick, vague e-mail and then proceeded to run and hide. I know five people who have asked very simple, polite questions and have not received one reply.

What can Hancock do? They don't own it.

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[trophyhunt]

No other logical explanation other than the fact that the owners of WR don't want us in there.

This IS the only explanation as the cowards at Hancock REFUSE to address it or answer any questions.  Just sent out a quick, vague e-mail and then proceeded to run and hide. I know five people who have asked very simple, polite questions and have not received one reply.

What can Hancock do? They don't own it.

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send emails to the mucklshoot tribe.

[Mudman]

No other logical explanation other than the fact that the owners of WR don't want us in there.

This IS the only explanation as the cowards at Hancock REFUSE to address it or answer any questions.  Just sent out a quick, vague e-mail and then proceeded to run and hide. I know five people who have asked very simple, polite questions and have not received one reply.

I dunno about all that, but I do know that Hancock and other Commercial Timber companies are in the biz of growing and cutting trees for profit.  Anything outside that falls into public relations and/or other no profit activities, which of course does nothing for their bottom line.  Historically, we hunters have often failed miserably in respecting the property of those companies  I'm sure for them, it is something of a love-hate relationship with hunters.  We help minimize animal damage to their crop trees, but we also cause damage in very many ways.

While I wish the Big Timber lands were still open to free hunting access for all hunters, I also understand that by charging for access, they are increasing their profits and keeping hunters somewhat satisfied with the situation.  Also, by limiting access to their lands, they are reducing the destruction that has, and still does, occur due to granting hunting access.  If they fail to respond to polite questions, I would suggest that beyond taking money and setting rules for access, they probably don't feel they need to spend valuable time  dealing with non-timber activities.  If you don't like the way they operate, then perhaps you should consider finding a different place to hunt.  I'm thinking they would agree with that sentiment.

Keep drinking koolaids.  Nonsense.

[TriggerMike]

Can you get your money back?

[Rookie24]

No other logical explanation other than the fact that the owners of WR don't want us in there.

This IS the only explanation as the cowards at Hancock REFUSE to address it or answer any questions.  Just sent out a quick, vague e-mail and then proceeded to run and hide. I know five people who have asked very simple, polite questions and have not received one reply.

What can Hancock do? They don't own it.

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They manage it for the MT and thus should at least provide answers to the people who bought the permit. To ignore e-mails and questions is BS.

[Rookie24]

Can you get your money back?

They are offering people their money back... that is the one thing they are doing right.