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The 22 rimfire shortage was something I don't want to repeat. We were in line (about the 10th in line) at 0500 before the local Ace Hardware opened just to have a shot at buying 200 rounds max per person. They ran out of ammo before the line did. Maybe I should up the rimfire QTY to 20k....
I have enough 22 ammo to last me a lifetime but I still buy it when I see good prices...
This will sum it up.
I have put thought into this question and concluded that I didn't need to store a lot of shotgun or handgun ammo. In an apocalyptic situation do you really want to get into multiple combat situations with a shotgun or handgun? You will probably get shot before you use it all. I think it makes more sense to have a lot of 223 or whatever your semi auto takes. I just don't see going for a shotgun when you have a semi auto. If society fell apart and you went hunting you would probably still take the semi auto most of the time. Now with that said I will buy ammo when it is on sale knowing that I can always trade or sell it later if ammo prices go up. I also don't get storing tons of 22lr. I don't plan on eating that much squirrel.
I think some of you guys need therapy! 😂
I personally think any time you can buy ammo less than or = you can reload for you should stock up. As far as shotgun ammo... I purchased 00 buck shot for 35c a round new. I could have sold it for $1.50 a round recently. In a time of social unreast how valuable do you think it would be? For your neighbor that owns a shotgun that may help police the neighborhood... Do you think providing him 10-20 rounds would be a good idea? Shotguns and 22lr are probably the 2 most common guns owned across America. Even if you think they are dumb to have if you purchased on a deal you might just have the trading capitol you need.
Quote from: Special T on July 16, 2020, 07:17:53 PMI personally think any time you can buy ammo less than or = you can reload for you should stock up. As far as shotgun ammo... I purchased 00 buck shot for 35c a round new. I could have sold it for $1.50 a round recently. In a time of social unreast how valuable do you think it would be? For your neighbor that owns a shotgun that may help police the neighborhood... Do you think providing him 10-20 rounds would be a good idea? Shotguns and 22lr are probably the 2 most common guns owned across America. Even if you think they are dumb to have if you purchased on a deal you might just have the trading capitol you need. Yea I said I am good with buying it on sale to possibly trade if needed. I recently sold some buckshot as well. But my point is that I think it is more important to focus on AK/AR ammo. I love my shotguns but in an apocalypse situation I wouldn't leave the house with one. The problem is that if the bad guy has a semi auto then you are in big trouble. Once you get out to 75 yards the buckshot pattern is terrible and your reload time is awful compared to an AR. Hunting rules would go out the window. So if you have 500 rounds of 3006 I don't think it matters because you wouldn't want to walk around with a bolt action less you run into a zombie. Makes more sense to take the AR every time. The handgun would just be there for backup. If you had to go for a backup enough times you would eventually lose. So stockpile for practice? I suppose but in an apocalypse situation you probably would have bigger issues than range practice. That is my take on it anyways.
I gotcha. I would agree for personal use with your assesment. Where i split off is that if things got that stupid you would need to band together with friends and neighbors. I personally would much rather give my neighbor a bunch of buckshot to help keep the peach than one of my rifles AND the ammo to go with it. Some might have some romantic ideas of lone wolfing it around, but that is just problematic. If you want to go down the rabbit hole read One Second After. THE Walking dead series i think shows how in times of turmoil how much we would need friends organized for mutual protection.
One second after is a great book
Quote from: jasnt on July 17, 2020, 10:12:09 AMOne second after is a great bookI think its scary as hell!
Quote from: Special T on July 17, 2020, 10:28:35 AMQuote from: jasnt on July 17, 2020, 10:12:09 AMOne second after is a great bookI think its scary as hell!I’d be worried if you didn’t feel that way. Still I highly recommend it. Very eye opening
Quote from: jasnt on July 17, 2020, 12:17:53 PMQuote from: Special T on July 17, 2020, 10:28:35 AMQuote from: jasnt on July 17, 2020, 10:12:09 AMOne second after is a great bookI think its scary as hell!I’d be worried if you didn’t feel that way. Still I highly recommend it. Very eye openingIm happy I dont live on the east coast, but I dont feel real good about being an hour from Seattle.
Post apocalyptic scenarios are really popular in pop culture, but I don't think they are very realistic. Any nightmare situation where you would have to engage in actual combat (not a self defense shooting) would probably not last more than a week, let alone years. Hurricane Katrina is an infinitely more likely scenario than Fallout. For SHTF, I think 500rds for your handgun, 1k for your battle rifle, 250rds of buckshot and 1k of .22lr should be more than enough to get you through. If the goal is survival, then you should probably avoid situations where you'd have to take on a battalion by yourself anyway. How many times do you honestly think you could fire your AR in battle before you got killed?If you want to stockpile stuff for survival, you should concentrate less on ammo and more on soap, bleach, plastic bags, batteries, food and seeds, medical supplies, water storage etc. I've got a couple 100ft rolls of 6mil plastic sheeting. Its amazing how many things that would be useful for. That said. There are practical reasons to stock up on ammo and right now is a perfect example. I was buying 1000rd cases of Blazer Brass 9mm FMJ for $168 a case just 6 months ago. Now its 3x the price, if you can find it at all. I've decided against going shooting a couple times recently because I'm down to my last 500. If I could get it today for 168, I'd buy 5. Given how drastically the price and availability of ammo fluctuates, I think there is a real economic reason to stockpile as much as you can afford/store.
Quote from: magnanimous_j on July 17, 2020, 02:01:45 PMPost apocalyptic scenarios are really popular in pop culture, but I don't think they are very realistic. Any nightmare situation where you would have to engage in actual combat (not a self defense shooting) would probably not last more than a week, let alone years. Hurricane Katrina is an infinitely more likely scenario than Fallout. For SHTF, I think 500rds for your handgun, 1k for your battle rifle, 250rds of buckshot and 1k of .22lr should be more than enough to get you through. If the goal is survival, then you should probably avoid situations where you'd have to take on a battalion by yourself anyway. How many times do you honestly think you could fire your AR in battle before you got killed?If you want to stockpile stuff for survival, you should concentrate less on ammo and more on soap, bleach, plastic bags, batteries, food and seeds, medical supplies, water storage etc. I've got a couple 100ft rolls of 6mil plastic sheeting. Its amazing how many things that would be useful for. That said. There are practical reasons to stock up on ammo and right now is a perfect example. I was buying 1000rd cases of Blazer Brass 9mm FMJ for $168 a case just 6 months ago. Now its 3x the price, if you can find it at all. I've decided against going shooting a couple times recently because I'm down to my last 500. If I could get it today for 168, I'd buy 5. Given how drastically the price and availability of ammo fluctuates, I think there is a real economic reason to stockpile as much as you can afford/store.yes... and the article "A Year in Hell" that described being trapped in a city in Bosnia is very insightful.
Quote from: Special T on July 17, 2020, 02:23:48 PMQuote from: magnanimous_j on July 17, 2020, 02:01:45 PMPost apocalyptic scenarios are really popular in pop culture, but I don't think they are very realistic. Any nightmare situation where you would have to engage in actual combat (not a self defense shooting) would probably not last more than a week, let alone years. Hurricane Katrina is an infinitely more likely scenario than Fallout. For SHTF, I think 500rds for your handgun, 1k for your battle rifle, 250rds of buckshot and 1k of .22lr should be more than enough to get you through. If the goal is survival, then you should probably avoid situations where you'd have to take on a battalion by yourself anyway. How many times do you honestly think you could fire your AR in battle before you got killed?If you want to stockpile stuff for survival, you should concentrate less on ammo and more on soap, bleach, plastic bags, batteries, food and seeds, medical supplies, water storage etc. I've got a couple 100ft rolls of 6mil plastic sheeting. Its amazing how many things that would be useful for. That said. There are practical reasons to stock up on ammo and right now is a perfect example. I was buying 1000rd cases of Blazer Brass 9mm FMJ for $168 a case just 6 months ago. Now its 3x the price, if you can find it at all. I've decided against going shooting a couple times recently because I'm down to my last 500. If I could get it today for 168, I'd buy 5. Given how drastically the price and availability of ammo fluctuates, I think there is a real economic reason to stockpile as much as you can afford/store.yes... and the article "A Year in Hell" that described being trapped in a city in Bosnia is very insightful.Totally. Its been a while since I read it, but IIRC, the author didn't mention ammo shortages. Only shortages of everything else.