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Are newer jeeps that bad?
« on: October 15, 2020, 01:00:12 PM »
My wife wants a newer four door Jeep. We mentioned it to the family and some said no way that they are garbage? Are they that bad??
Opinions please

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2020, 01:02:24 PM »
We have a 2015 wrangler unlimited... I hate it, but the wife loves it. It’s on 35” M/Ts though. It rides like crap and is a gutless wonder.
The newer ones have more creature comforts though.
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2020, 01:05:37 PM »
I bought my son a new 2017 Wrangler Unlimited.  Put 35s and a lift on it.  Have not had one problem with it.  Not overly fancy rig on the inside, but wasnt that expensive either.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2020, 01:14:22 PM »
I bought my son a new 2017 Wrangler Unlimited.  Put 35s and a lift on it.  Have not had one problem with it.  Not overly fancy rig on the inside, but wasnt that expensive either.

Ours has had a couple issues that were covered by warranty. The rear right caliper locked up at 19k miles. The transmission had an issue too, can’t remember what it was, but it was stuck in 2nd gear.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2020, 01:21:13 PM »
ALL new rigs will give you problems at some point.   

As to the four door jeeps,  my  neighbor went through 3 of them in less then six months!  Bad rear axles, faulty transmission tube.  Don't remember what he experienced with the third one, but he didn't bring home another one.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2020, 01:24:19 PM »
ALL new rigs will give you problems at some point.   

As to the four door jeeps,  my  neighbor went through 3 of them in less then six months!  Bad rear axles, faulty transmission tube.  Don't remember what he experienced with the third one, but he didn't bring home another one.

Wish I'd have kept my 73 Wagoneer!!  360 with a four speed behind it, ran like a champ!   I'll stick with my 92 YJ and just keep fixing it!

My brother in law had a 2015 that got lemon lawed. The rear diff was constantly screwed up.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2020, 01:24:56 PM »
My wife wants a newer four door Jeep. We mentioned it to the family and some said no way that they are garbage? Are they that bad??
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2020, 01:27:30 PM »
They seem like they'd be fun to have, but I haven't wanted to take the risk. Jeep/Dodge in general (Ram being an exception).

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2020, 01:27:43 PM »
The new ones have leaky roofs as well

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2020, 01:40:42 PM »
 Depends what you want it for. If you like off-road vehicles and understand that it’s a 4x4 first and a street vehicle second then they’re great. Expect a cushy comfortable daily highway cruiser and only use it for groceries and you’ll hate it. Don’t lift it correctly (expensive) and it will drive like crap. Put 35s on it without regearing and it will feel very gutless. Basically if you aren’t willing to put the money into it and you aren’t a Jeep person that’s willing to put up with its quirks, a different route may be the better option.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2020, 01:43:03 PM »
I don't know if you're talking about just Wranglers or any Jeeps, but I love my '17 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. I've taken it on some ridiculous boulder crawls to get to fishing spots, and it's handled everywhere I tried to hunt without even having to engage most of the off-road features. Maybe I just got lucky, but I haven't had any problems at all except for routine maintenance stuff.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2020, 01:50:49 PM »
Got a 2018 JL Wrangler Rubicon. No problems, no roof leaks. If your wife gets one and you ride with her you will notice all of the guys waving 'hi" to her. Don't worry, it's a Wrangler thing and not something your wife is doing to encourage all of those waves.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2020, 01:56:29 PM »
Depends what you want it for. If you like off-road vehicles and understand that it’s a 4x4 first and a street vehicle second then they’re great. Expect a cushy comfortable daily highway cruiser and only use it for groceries and you’ll hate it. Don’t lift it correctly (expensive) and it will drive like crap. Put 35s on it without regearing and it will feel very gutless. Basically if you aren’t willing to put the money into it and you aren’t a Jeep person that’s willing to put up with its quirks, a different route may be the better option.

 :yeah: Ours is a dang mall crawler, no way would the boss let it go off road. If it was used as an off road vehicle I would be more pleased with it. However for around town/highway use it is miserable.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2020, 02:05:40 PM »
As I was reading this thread, I saw a jeep pull into the parking lot at my office bldg.  Never seen one like this before....looks sweet to me.
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2020, 02:13:40 PM »
2018 Grand Cherokee and love mine.  3.6 293 HP.  Got plenty of power.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2020, 02:49:24 PM »
Opinion? You asked for it.

YUCK DEWD!  :bdid: MOPAR is cheap garbage. Newer Jeeps look disgusting IMO, and I can't stand the Jeep community either with their "iT's A jEeP tHiNg" dreamy off-road fantasy cars. Mechanically inconsistent rigs.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2020, 03:04:21 PM »
I am thick skinned
Thank you for all of your info.!!

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2020, 03:09:18 PM »
Opinion? You asked for it.

YUCK DEWD!  :bdid: MOPAR is cheap garbage. Newer Jeeps look disgusting IMO, and I can't stand the Jeep community either with their "iT's A jEeP tHiNg" dreamy off-road fantasy cars. Mechanically inconsistent rigs.
So are you talking Mopar as a whole or just the Jeep side?  I would put my Ram 2500 up against any truck.  Not all people that own Jeeps are part of that Jeep community either.  My Grand Cherokee is the first Jeep we have ever owned.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2020, 03:43:12 PM »
I bought a 2001 Grand Cherokee Laredo with 110K miles. At 120K, one off the serpentine pulleys sheared off the block. At 122K, the heads blew - new engine. Then the heater core at 130K. Water pump shortly after. The seat construction is horrible with band metal supporting the seats - also replaced at 130K. The actuators went out at 150K. The weather stripping died then, too. Other than a Willy's, I wouldn't purchase another one of those pieces of crap if it were free...because it would cost too much to keep on the road. Do I sound jaded? You bet I am!
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2020, 03:46:29 PM »
I bought a 2001 Grand Cherokee Laredo with 110K miles. At 120K, one off the serpentine pulleys sheared off the block. At 122K, the heads blew - new engine. Then the heater core at 130K. Water pump shortly after. The seat construction is horrible with band metal supporting the seats - also replaced at 130K. The actuators went out at 150K. The weather stripping died then, too. Other than a Willy's, I wouldn't purchase another one of those pieces of crap if it were free...because it would cost too much to keep on the road. Do I sound jaded? You bet I am!
That era usually has alot of electrical issues, sounds like you got a good one  :chuckle:
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 :chuckle: :chuckle: That's funny, Buckmark..... :IBCOOL:
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2020, 06:51:12 PM »
As I was reading this thread, I saw a jeep pull into the parking lot at my office bldg.  Never seen one like this before....looks sweet to me.
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2020, 07:55:42 PM »
Back in 2005, bought a brad new jeep Cherokee picked up from dealer, drove home on a way home had BRAKE light went on and it was just a beginning of all the problems i had. Differential problems and more and more.They had to replace it under warranty, lemon law at the end after many dealer visits. No more Jeeps in my family!!!

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2020, 10:56:00 PM »
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2020, 06:03:21 AM »
It amazes me the number of these new jeep owners like Rubicon's with winches, lifts, etc. that never get off the pavement. Obviously an expensive fad
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2020, 06:11:39 AM »
It amazes me the number of these new jeep owners like Rubicon's with winches, lifts, etc. that never get off the pavement. Obviously an expensive fad

People definitely like to look rugged when they shopping. And they’re willing to spend a lot of money to look rugged.

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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2020, 06:52:44 AM »
I don't think it is what your wife may think it is (A jeep looking SUV), they have improved but in comparison to say a 4 runner it will ride like it has square tires.

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2020, 06:05:16 PM »
Too many electronics on board that will have issues.
I can hose out my interior and it wont hurt anything.
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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2020, 07:03:42 PM »
I bought a 2001 Grand Cherokee Laredo with 110K miles. At 120K, one off the serpentine pulleys sheared off the block. At 122K, the heads blew - new engine. Then the heater core at 130K. Water pump shortly after. The seat construction is horrible with band metal supporting the seats - also replaced at 130K. The actuators went out at 150K. The weather stripping died then, too. Other than a Willy's, I wouldn't purchase another one of those pieces of crap if it were free...because it would cost too much to keep on the road. Do I sound jaded? You bet I am!
That era usually has alot of electrical issues, sounds like you got a good one  :chuckle:
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2020, 08:18:36 PM »
It amazes me the number of these new jeep owners like Rubicon's with winches, lifts, etc. that never get off the pavement. Obviously an expensive fad

Six different families in my neighborhood have multiple (more than two) Rubicons, One family has five, all built for rock-crawling, Mom, Dad, and all three kids.
They all belong to an Serious Rubicon Off-road club and make multiple runs to Moab, Utah a year and are out almost every weekend. They are serious rock-crawlers.

The point?
If you are looking for a very good off-road vehicle, and can put up with how an offroad vehicle drives daily, and understand they will nickel and dime you, as will all offroad vehicles, then a Jeep might be for you.

I have owned four Jeeps over the years. Two went over 280k miles. The other two I traded in for another Jeep
They all have quirks. Two I kept pretty much stock, the other two were built to trail and crawl.

As I was reading this thread, I saw a jeep pull into the parking lot at my office bldg.  Never seen one like this before....looks sweet to me.


That is the Jeep Gladiator.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2020, 08:37:10 PM »
It amazes me the number of these new jeep owners like Rubicon's with winches, lifts, etc. that never get off the pavement. Obviously an expensive fad

Six different families in my neighborhood have multiple (more than two) Rubicons, One family has five, all built for rock-crawling, Mom, Dad, and all three kids.
They all belong to an Serious Rubicon Off-road club and make multiple runs to Moab, Utah a year and are out almost every weekend. They are serious rock-crawlers.

The point?
If you are looking for a very good off-road vehicle, and can put up with how an offroad vehicle drives daily, and understand they will nickel and dime you, as will all offroad vehicles, then a Jeep might be for you.

I have owned four Jeeps over the years. Two went over 280k miles. The other two I traded in for another Jeep
They all have quirks. Two I kept pretty much stock, the other two were built to trail and crawl.

As I was reading this thread, I saw a jeep pull into the parking lot at my office bldg.  Never seen one like this before....looks sweet to me.


That is the Jeep Gladiator.

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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2020, 08:41:32 PM »
It amazes me the number of these new jeep owners like Rubicon's with winches, lifts, etc. that never get off the pavement. Obviously an expensive fad

Six different families in my neighborhood have multiple (more than two) Rubicons, One family has five, all built for rock-crawling, Mom, Dad, and all three kids.
They all belong to an Serious Rubicon Off-road club and make multiple runs to Moab, Utah a year and are out almost every weekend. They are serious rock-crawlers.

The point?
If you are looking for a very good off-road vehicle, and can put up with how an offroad vehicle drives daily, and understand they will nickel and dime you, as will all offroad vehicles, then a Jeep might be for you.

I have owned four Jeeps over the years. Two went over 280k miles. The other two I traded in for another Jeep
They all have quirks. Two I kept pretty much stock, the other two were built to trail and crawl.

As I was reading this thread, I saw a jeep pull into the parking lot at my office bldg.  Never seen one like this before....looks sweet to me.


That is the Jeep Gladiator.

Modified 4dr wrangler. Look closely.

I thought it was just the pic that made it look a little shorted,  you are correct.

The gutter do not continue back to the "add-on" extended part, and all Gladiators are four door.
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Re: Are newer jeeps that bad?
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2020, 09:44:33 PM »
I love my yj!.   I'd like to get a tj, maybe newer.
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