12-YEAR-OLD MAKES STUNNING 1,376-YARD SHOT ON BIG BULL ELK

[jay.sharkbait]

Try not to judge others based on your own limitations.

[Stein]

Far too much room for error to be comfortable with it.

1st shot a complete miss.....   Could just s easily be a leg, or paunch, or gut, or.......

The kid made a great shot.
If he can show that he can put 10/10 in a kill zone sized target at that range, I'd feel better about it.

But he didn't...

In the video.  Dude Perfect always makes the shot too.

[Wanttohuntmore]

Missing happens at all ranges.   Personally I wouldn't shoot at elk or deer at that distance due to too many variables.   I love target shooting to 1500 and bow shooting to 100yds.  That said I missed my biggest bull at 11 yds....    it haunts me.   Regardless,  shooting that far at elk probably shouldn't be encouraged.   I'm sure all the videos of maimed elk or missed elk are not shown...  it would hurt their whole business model.

[Karl Blanchard]

Missing happens at all ranges.   Personally I wouldn't shoot at elk or deer at that distance due to too many variables.   I love target shooting to 1500 and bow shooting to 100yds.  That said I missed my biggest bull at 11 yds....    it haunts me.   Regardless,  shooting that far at elk probably shouldn't be encouraged.   I'm sure all the videos of maimed elk or missed elk are not shown...  it would hurt their whole business model.

I've seen a lot of hunting videos of guys making really terrible shots at much closer ranges that get neatly edited too though 

[Axle]

While I'm happy for him, I still don't consider this 'fair chase'.

[birddogdad]

was from a few years ago. these guys are long range shooters/sellers of weapons... This is Aarons son who shoots a lot and is proficient at those ranges... MW sums up reality with impact energies .. i find it interesting how these threads on LR shooting always strike nerves on those who don't, wont, cant or think it impossible imparting their negative vibes into the picture. LR is a learned skillset. it is legal, it is hunting (even if you don't think so), it just may not be your cup of tea...

ANY distance should be to your own comfort level. I know that if i ever draw one of those special 20 pointer tags, my stupid heavy Cheytac will be with me and if i have that chance and it meets MY comfort levels / environment and MW's impact considerations, you can bet i will send it!

of note, in 50+ years of hunting, never had to reach past 500yds for any game and yes comfortable well beyond that range. I too prefer stalking in but that is my choice ....

[Magnum_Willys]

That said I missed my biggest bull at 11 yds....    it haunts me. 

Missed a neck kill shot at 10 yards under heavy reprod at first light.  Got away. With a rifle!  It happens. 

Also elevation is a big factor - ft lbs at 9000 ft are so much more than at sea level.

[Jonathan_S]

While I'm happy for him, I still don't consider this 'fair chase'.

Cool!

[Stein]

Missing happens at all ranges, true, but not with the same probability.  For any skill level, the odds of making a good hit at 100 are much, much different than 1,346. 

The debate is actually the question of what probability do you think is ethical?  What is the probability of putting a bullet in a vital sized target using a hunting rifle and improvised rest in a location where you have not shot before and have only one wind data point?

[fishngamereaper]

Well we actually don't know if the kid was on the gun for the shot...the video does pan away for that part..

As for missing. Of course it happens. That's why putting limitations on your distance is important to increase your odds of clean harvest.  The odds of someone missing at 200 is allot less than someone missing at 1300.

What's the drop on a 7mag at 1300, 20-25' maybe.. how many wind calls do you have, need at least 3 at that distance, direction of thermals, what's the elevation done to your zero....the list is long..as many of you know.

I'm just venting I guess. Not trying to minimize anyone's ability. I just see these videos and I cringe. Knowing they wound a fair share...

[Woodchuck]

Well we actually don't know if the kid was on the gun for the shot...the video does pan away for that part..

As for missing. Of course it happens. That's why putting limitations on your distance is important to increase your odds of clean harvest.  The odds of someone missing at 200 is allot less than someone missing at 1300.

What's the drop on a 7mag at 1300, 20-25' maybe.. how many wind calls do you have, need at least 3 at that distance, direction of thermals, what's the elevation done to your zero....the list is long..as many of you know.

I'm just venting I guess. Not trying to minimize anyone's ability. I just see these videos and I cringe. Knowing they wound a fair share...

HA! I can miss at 200 with amazing precision!

[KFhunter]

These threads always go the same way with the same tired arguments.

To me nothings beats a screaming bull on a string and I prefer them inside of 20 yards, I want to hear the thud of their hooves and smell that elk piss.

Can't get that experience at 1300 yards

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[LabChamp]

Completely agree with posts calling this unethical. Reminds me of watching 3 guys in Idaho last year shooting at an elk from 1300 yards. Watched them shoot at this elk probably 15 times between em and never saw a bullet connect. And low and behold WA license plates, way to make a good impression smh...Worst part was watching a kid about 13  stand up and run to their truck, grab more ammo and start shooting again. Guys teaching their kids that’s ethical hunting make me sick. Never saw them even hike over and look for blood that day. This whole long range fad is just straight up gross. You have these guys that think that them dumping 5k into a rifle will make their long range shots (that they’ve always missed) magically start to happen. Truth is there is so much more than their money pulling the trigger, reloading, ect. Led alone being able to accurately judge your variables just adds another twist to making these shots unethical shots. I’m sorry but if you can’t put 10 out of 10 bullets into the kill zone you have ZERO business letting it rip at long range. Makes me wonder how many animals get hit and never recovered bc they never look or know if they hit the animal.

[Igor]

Take the range out of the equation .........

The range of the shot is precisely what makes it a questionable one, if not downright unethical.

[bearhunter99]

To each their own, I prefer to be up close and personal and have never shot anything over 350 yards.  I have missed at less than 100 too......  I do enjoy shooting at longer ranges with both my bow and my rifle but its more of the challenge aspect to it and learning what different conditions have what effect.  Practicing at longer distances really improves your accuracy at the shorter ones. 

My biggest issue is that you can't control the variables in a hunting situation.  Shooting at 1,000+ yards at a range which is mostly flat ground and has far fewer variables is one thing but shooting across a canyon just has too many variables.  You know what the wind is doing where you are but unless you have someone at the halfway point and another standing next to the animal how would you ever know what the wind and thermals are doing anywhere else along the flight of the bullet?  I know for a fact that I have been in the field and been across a canyon from a hunting partner (about 500 yards apart) and the wind was blowing east where I was and northwest where he was.  The only way to accurately gauge what the bullet is going to in any given scenario is to take a shot and spot it and adjust.  Even then conditions can change in a matter of seconds too....  That is fine for a gong but not for an animal in my opinion because that first shot could have devastating results. 

That being said, as others have mentioned there are many that take shots outside of their comfort zone and I have seen all sorts of misses and bad shots with a bow, rifle and muzzleloader that can be attributed to a bunch of different factors including "buck fever".