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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #75 on: January 02, 2021, 01:57:24 PM »
Would a 1x-4x with the zoom ring duct taped over be legal?

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #76 on: January 02, 2021, 02:15:43 PM »
Would a 1x-4x with the zoom ring duct taped over be legal?

Just file the -4x off.    :peep:
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #77 on: January 02, 2021, 02:24:39 PM »
Would a 1x-4x with the zoom ring duct taped over be legal?
Since the intent is to make it easier to see, why limit magnification at all? People can see better with 4x than 1x.   ;)
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2021, 03:18:38 PM »
Little redneck ingenuity just take a 1-4 and jb weld it stuck at 1x :chuckle:
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2021, 03:32:57 PM »
My variables already self identify as fixed powers.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #80 on: January 02, 2021, 03:35:38 PM »
My variables already self identify as fixed powers.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #81 on: January 02, 2021, 03:55:25 PM »
Oy veh.... 
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #82 on: January 02, 2021, 05:26:27 PM »
I only know of 3 makes of 1x scopes in a traditional scope style.   Weaver made the 1x20mm in their Kaspa series and it has a duplex reticle.  TC made the Hawken Hunter in a 1x32mm and it has the duplex reticle.  Nikon once made the Buckmaster series in a 1x and I doubt it had anything resembling a BDC reticle.  So you BDC wishers can put that to rest. I happen to have in my shop one of the Weaver 1x and one of the TC 1x scopes.  Hence the real reason I doubt there will be a flocking of outsiders to the muzzy ranks. You are gonna have to be pretty creative with internet searches to come up with one.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #83 on: January 02, 2021, 06:35:01 PM »
I only know of 3 makes of 1x scopes in a traditional scope style.   Weaver made the 1x20mm in their Kaspa series and it has a duplex reticle.  TC made the Hawken Hunter in a 1x32mm and it has the duplex reticle.  Nikon once made the Buckmaster series in a 1x and I doubt it had anything resembling a BDC reticle.  So you BDC wishers can put that to rest. I happen to have in my shop one of the Weaver 1x and one of the TC 1x scopes.  Hence the real reason I doubt there will be a flocking of outsiders to the muzzy ranks. You are gonna have to be pretty creative with internet searches to come up with one.

I believe as soon as its passed or maybe they all ready are but company’s will make a good scope with drop reticle to fill the need. But ya maybe any 1x+ welded in place would be legal. But there’s no doubt more people would make the switch with accuracy being so much easier to achieve.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #84 on: January 02, 2021, 07:14:26 PM »
Why not just allow rifles?

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #85 on: January 02, 2021, 08:11:10 PM »
That would be a fun fly on the wall moment. "But officer, can't you see I JB welded the power ring in the 1x position?"

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #86 on: January 02, 2021, 08:12:31 PM »
Why not just allow rifles?


You know cause they claim there eye sight ,  the range ,and blah blah blah that’s exactly what they want without coming out and saying it .

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #87 on: January 02, 2021, 08:12:47 PM »
I only know of 3 makes of 1x scopes in a traditional scope style.   Weaver made the 1x20mm in their Kaspa series and it has a duplex reticle.  TC made the Hawken Hunter in a 1x32mm and it has the duplex reticle.  Nikon once made the Buckmaster series in a 1x and I doubt it had anything resembling a BDC reticle.  So you BDC wishers can put that to rest. I happen to have in my shop one of the Weaver 1x and one of the TC 1x scopes.  Hence the real reason I doubt there will be a flocking of outsiders to the muzzy ranks. You are gonna have to be pretty creative with internet searches to come up with one.
I know vortex used to make their 1-4 pst scope as a fixed 1x on a custom basis. It had an moa reticle as well as tirrets to compensate for range. There were actually quite a few options for fixed 1x scopes when utah had that restriction on muzzys.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #88 on: January 02, 2021, 08:17:01 PM »
Why not just allow rifles?


You know cause they claim there eye sight ,  the range ,and blah blah blah that’s exactly what they want without coming out and saying it .

I really dislike the idea of ones eyesight as the reasoning for allowing scopes. Tjere comes a time that we all eventually wont be able to do the things we love, and thats part of it.

Heck i am not very old and my eyes have a tough time with open and peep sights. So i drastically reduce my effective range. For me personally, a muzzy is a sub 100 yard thing. But give me a 1x scope and i could stretch that much, much farther. I am very against any scopes on muzzys.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #89 on: January 02, 2021, 08:20:58 PM »
Why not just allow rifles?


You know cause they claim there eye sight ,  the range ,and blah blah blah that’s exactly what they want without coming out and saying it .

I really dislike the idea of ones eyesight as the reasoning for allowing scopes. Tjere comes a time that we all eventually wont be able to do the things we love, and thats part of it.

Heck i am not very old and my eyes have a tough time with open and peep sights. So i drastically reduce my effective range. For me personally, a muzzy is a sub 100 yard thing. But give me a 1x scope and i could stretch that much, much farther. I am very against any scopes on muzzys.

That’s exactly it whether we wanna admit it or not eventually  we won’t be able to do what we wanna the same way as when we were young if they really want the scope switch to modern , heck one of the guys in my deer camp is 79 and is having to switch to an offset scope for his rifle and still has to be very close .  Muzzleloader I know why my limits are and some of the guys in our group are much less it will  change over time same for all of us

 


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