Another special hunt question

[lamar_hunter]

I'm looking at what tags to apply for for elk and am kind of confused.  Next to the "Dayton A" tag there is a little c footnote thing that says it is private land and that access is extremely limited.  So does that mean that your not allowed to hunt in the Rainwater Indian owned ground? It is feel free to hunt but i do not know if that would exclude umatilla national forest and Rainwater Indian ground. 

[bucklucky]

Check the boundry description and mark it on a map so you can see where you can hunt.

[lamar_hunter]

It says the tag is for GMU 162. The Umatilla National Forest and Rainwater Indian ground is in 162. Next to Dayton A it has a little C right next to it which is a footnote that reads: Private lands; access is extremely limited.  If you cannot secure access to private lands do not apply for these hunts.  So does that mean i would only be allowed to hunt private ground? if that simplifies it at all.

[jackelope]

right...the permit does not grant you permission to access private land if thats what you're getting at. if you are not a land owner or don't have access to land, it would not be wise to put in for the permit.

[lamar_hunter]

ok so you can't hunt on public land.

[Bob33]

"ok so you can't hunt on public land."

I don't read it that way.  I read it as you can legally hunt anywhere in GMU 162.  However, the state is warning you that much of GMU 162 is private land.  You can hunt on any public land in GMU 162 on which hunting is allowed, or on any private land for which you have permission.

[Pathfinder101]

I predict that by next year we are all going to have to hire Pope to read and interpret the WDFW Hunting Pamphlet for us.  Myabe that's why he puts up with so much crap from us.  He figures if he can just stick it out another year or two we'll be a gold mine...

[MuleyontheWall]

i was wondering the same thing on the new 49 degrees north whitetail tag....has that same little c next to it which didnt make much sense....lots of public land in that gmu 117...

[huntnphool]

Here is one from last year in that unit, spotted him while looking for bullwinkle

[whacker1]

I don't read it that way.  I read it as you can legally hunt anywhere in GMU 162.  However, the state is warning you that much of GMU 162 is private land.  You can hunt on any public land in GMU 162 on which hunting is allowed, or on any private land for which you have permission.

This is the way I have always understood this.  Same with the question of the 49 degrees north whitetail tag.  Much of the valley of 49 degrees north is private, and many whitetail holding in the valley, so thus they want you to ask property owners for permission prior to hunting private property (as it should be).

[jackelope]

 

there's a lot of private farm land in 162 too. i don't see whats so difficult to understand.

[bucklucky]

I guess what he is saying is he wants to put in for a Unit he knows nothing about besides all the big bull talk and wants to put in for it , do your homework and look at the maps. Its not hard to outline a map and find your public hunting grounds. RESEARCH!

[jackelope]

'tis the season......

[boneaddict]

Be nice, he is 17 and is smart enough to ask a good pointed question, instead of what unit should I apply for.  LOL   

Now I am not super familiar with the area myself, but there is or was a big portion of that watershed that you can't hunt in even though its public.  They watch it quite closely as I remember because everyone wants to hunt in it as its got some huge hawgs, especially muledeer. 

[nwhunter]

Wow Bucky sounds a little protective I agree though, know for yourself what your putting in for, guys eat tag soup every year in those big bull units cause they didn't know what they were in for nwhunter

[jackelope]

bone...i think you're thinking of the mill creek watershed unit, which joins 162's south end, but it's a different unit.
157 i wanna say...
157 is brutally steep but there is some monsters. also i think they don't let you in to scout it either. don't hold me to that one though.

[boneaddict]

You're right. I wasn't sure where it was down there or what unit it was attached too.  As far as I know its no admittance ever, that includes shed hunting or shroom picking.   I know that some folks hunt the boundary religiously hoping for one to come out. 

[boneaddict]

they didn't know what they were in for nwhunter

   GOOD ADVICE, especially in that neck of the woods. 

[bucklucky]

I wasnt trying to be a Jerk, just trying to make sence in my own tiny noodle of a brain 

[boneaddict]

I know.  I have the same issues.  I must also get moody too because there is a limit to how many of these ?s I can handle.  Especially this time of year from the first time poster, (thread jacked, not talking about you Lamar)

[lamar_hunter]

I guess what he is saying is he wants to put in for a Unit he knows nothing about besides all the big bull talk and wants to put in for it , do your homework and look at the maps. Its not hard to outline a map and find your public hunting grounds. RESEARCH!

 im a local and elk hunt in the indian ground and making sure if i was to get the the tag (even though i probably won't) that i would be able hunt in that area.  I wasnt sure if maybe because it was indain ground that they wanted all the big bulls to themselves? which isnt out of the question.

[lamar_hunter]

there's a lot of private farm land in 162 too. i don't see whats so difficult to understand.

yes there is.. they just kind of made it sound like you could only hunt private ground and if u cannot hunt private ground dont apply.  I thought u could hunt anywhere in 162 but i just figured i would double check and this would be the place to ask.

[Pathfinder101]

You're right. I wasn't sure where it was down there or what unit it was attached too.  As far as I know its no admittance ever, that includes shed hunting or shroom picking.   I know that some folks hunt the boundary religiously hoping for one to come out. 

You are right about the Watershed, no admittance, ever, unless you are one of the 40 lucky guys that draws the elk tag in there.  You can't scout it, you can't set foot in it until first day of the season, and even during the season you can't spend the night in the unit.  Most guys that draw try to get ahold of a horse, camp at the edge of the unit, get up at 3:00 am, ride in, hobble the stock, hunt all day, and ride out in the dark.  They patrol the area all year long with vehicles and aircraft making sure there is no one in there. 
I would LOVE to draw that tag, but there is no special archery season, so I have to wait until I get the multi-season tag before I try putting in for it.

[rosscrazyelk]

t says the tag is for GMU 162. The Umatilla National Forest and Rainwater Indian ground is in 162. Next to Dayton A it has a little C right next to it which is a footnote that reads: Private lands; access is extremely limited.  If you cannot secure access to private lands do not apply for these hunts.  So does that mean i would only be allowed to hunt private ground? if that simplifies it at all.
I believe Dayton city hall has a list of names of people that will let you hunt their land , You just need to contact them.

[lamar_hunter]

t says the tag is for GMU 162. The Umatilla National Forest and Rainwater Indian ground is in 162. Next to Dayton A it has a little C right next to it which is a footnote that reads: Private lands; access is extremely limited.  If you cannot secure access to private lands do not apply for these hunts.  So does that mean i would only be allowed to hunt private ground? if that simplifies it at all.
I believe Dayton city hall has a list of names of people that will let you hunt their land , You just need to contact them.

my dad knows most of the landowners but if i got the tag i know the rainwater area pretty good and know there are some dandy bulls in there so i would hunt there if i could.