California AR Ban over Turned

[Fl0und3rz]

If we're done bashing the NRA, my AR identities as a Swiss Army knife.

[Igor]

And you are the one who is grasping at straws, trying to defend a corrupt organization.

Enjoy your cool aid.

Well, I know many LEOs who have benefited from NRA-initiated and NRA-sponsored training.  They put their lives on the line on a daily basis, and it's my belief that the intense training they have received, and will continue to benefit from, has come in large part from the NRA.

It's not my intent to "defend a corrupt organization".  I just don't agree with those who continue to bad-mouth them without fully understanding/acknowledging the positive contributions they have made, and will continue to make.

[konradcountry]

The NRA has its problems, especially at the top. But it's prudent to remember that they train more civilians, military, and LE in gun safety and handling than all of the other organizations combined. Aside from the sometimes questionable politics and the exorbitant spending by their executives, they play a very important role in our 2nd Amendment rights. That's not to say you shouldn't support other organizations like SAF and GOA. Supporting multiple organizations is essential. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. We still need at least some of what they supply, IMO.

If gun owners had cut off LaPierre's luxury spending fund a few years ago then the organization could have reformed. They would have given him the boot if revenue dropped.

So some of us view defending the current NRA as working against what the NRA once was. LaPierre is a scummy executive and a half assed hunter. That elephant hunting video was a total embarrassment.

[jay.sharkbait]

And you are the one who is grasping at straws, trying to defend a corrupt organization.

Enjoy your cool aid.

It's not my intent to "defend a corrupt organization".  I just don't agree with those who continue to bad-mouth them without fully understanding/acknowledging the positive contributions they have made, and will continue to make.

I’m sure some would think that Planned Parenthood does some good things. Should they be given a pass for the bad stuff too?

[Igor]

And you are the one who is grasping at straws, trying to defend a corrupt organization.

Enjoy your cool aid.

It's not my intent to "defend a corrupt organization".  I just don't agree with those who continue to bad-mouth them without fully understanding/acknowledging the positive contributions they have made, and will continue to make.

I’m sure some would think that Planned Parenthood does some good things. Should they be given a pass for the bad stuff too?

Now who is grasping at straws

[pianoman9701]

The NRA has its problems, especially at the top. But it's prudent to remember that they train more civilians, military, and LE in gun safety and handling than all of the other organizations combined. Aside from the sometimes questionable politics and the exorbitant spending by their executives, they play a very important role in our 2nd Amendment rights. That's not to say you shouldn't support other organizations like SAF and GOA. Supporting multiple organizations is essential. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. We still need at least some of what they supply, IMO.

If gun owners had cut off LaPierre's luxury spending fund a few years ago then the organization could have reformed. They would have given him the boot if revenue dropped.

So some of us view defending the current NRA as working against what the NRA once was. LaPierre is a scummy executive and a half assed hunter. That elephant hunting video was a total embarrassment.

I don't disagree. I'm only commenting on the firearms training aspect of the organization. And, you'll note, I encourage people to sign up with other organizations who are more effective politically.

[bigtex]

A three judge panel of the 9th Circuit put the judge's order on hold. The panel consisted of Trump, Obama, and Clinton appointees.

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[highside74]

Of course the 9th circuit did. They are the worst.

[callturner]

I don't disagree. I'm only commenting on the firearms training aspect of the organization. And, you'll note, I encourage people to sign up with other organizations who are more effective politically.
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Other organizations are great and a big help. But there are NONE that are more effective politically!