6mm Creedmoor

[huntnphool]

 Who has one and what are your thoughts please?

[northwesthunter84]

Following, I have committed to buy one, really like the specs.

[Bob33]

Some interesting thoughts.

https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/im-not-buying-6mm-creedmoor

[kselkhunter]

Make sure the rifle barrel has 1:7 twist rate if possible to take advantage of the higher BC projectiles. 

[huntnphool]

 Seems to be plenty of factory rounds on the shelf, specs look good.

[buglebuster]

My daughter has taken 3 big game animals with one. 2 deer and an elk. The thing performs flawlessly and is extremely accurate with 105 gr Berger reloads. Banging steel at 700 is easy.

[b23]

I had a 6CM built a couple years ago on a SA Rem 700 using a 20in Proof CFW barrel.  I haven't really shot it very much but it shoots very well and is a sweet little gun to shoot.  I went with a 9tw because I knew the heaviest bullet I'd shoot would be Berger's 95gr Hunting VLD.  So far all I've shot are Nosler 70gr BT's.  I'm not sure a 7tw is needed unless you plan to shoot the 115's.  Most of the 6CM I've seen typically have 8tw barrels but per Berger my 9tw will shoot the 105's fine just at about -2% BC. 

[huntnphool]

 

[fly-by]

I had a 6CM built a couple years ago on a SA Rem 700 using a 20in Proof CFW barrel.  I haven't really shot it very much but it shoots very well and is a sweet little gun to shoot.  I went with a 9tw because I knew the heaviest bullet I'd shoot would be Berger's 95gr Hunting VLD.  So far all I've shot are Nosler 70gr BT's.  I'm not sure a 7tw is needed unless you plan to shoot the 115's.  Most of the 6CM I've seen typically have 8tw barrels but per Berger my 9tw will shoot the 105's fine just at about -2% BC.

Beautiful rife.  What's the balance like with the short CF barrel and did you go 20" because you run a suppressor?

[b23]

I had a 6CM built a couple years ago on a SA Rem 700 using a 20in Proof CFW barrel.  I haven't really shot it very much but it shoots very well and is a sweet little gun to shoot.  I went with a 9tw because I knew the heaviest bullet I'd shoot would be Berger's 95gr Hunting VLD.  So far all I've shot are Nosler 70gr BT's.  I'm not sure a 7tw is needed unless you plan to shoot the 115's.  Most of the 6CM I've seen typically have 8tw barrels but per Berger my 9tw will shoot the 105's fine just at about -2% BC.

Beautiful rife.  What's the balance like with the short CF barrel and did you go 20" because you run a suppressor?

Thank you, it did seem to turn out really well.  As for balance, without a can, it's very neutrally balanced but screw a can on and like anything with a can it changes the balance point but certainly not to the point it's an issue.

I'm not implying you did but often people assume that 6CM in the pic is a lightweight build because it has a CFW barrel.  The build specs on that particular rifle is trued SA Rem 700 w/spiral fluted bolt, McM Varmint model stock, Vortex HS-T 4-16x44, NF UL .885 ring, NF pic rail, 20in Proof CFW barrel, and standard Rem BDL bottom metal.  All fairly standard stuff with a fairly lightish optic (20oz) and if I recall the stock was right around 2lbs maybe a couple ounces more and that gun as it sits in the picture with no can still weighs 9lbs 1.5oz which certainly isn't what anyone would consider a LW build.  Because it's short, even with a can, it always feels lighter than it really is. 

[huntnphool]

I had a 6CM built a couple years ago on a SA Rem 700 using a 20in Proof CFW barrel.  I haven't really shot it very much but it shoots very well and is a sweet little gun to shoot.  I went with a 9tw because I knew the heaviest bullet I'd shoot would be Berger's 95gr Hunting VLD.  So far all I've shot are Nosler 70gr BT's.  I'm not sure a 7tw is needed unless you plan to shoot the 115's.  Most of the 6CM I've seen typically have 8tw barrels but per Berger my 9tw will shoot the 105's fine just at about -2% BC.

Beautiful rife.  What's the balance like with the short CF barrel and did you go 20" because you run a suppressor?

Thank you, it did seem to turn out really well.  As for balance, without a can, it's very neutrally balanced but screw a can on and like anything with a can it changes the balance point but certainly not to the point it's an issue.

I'm not implying you did but often people assume that 6CM in the pic is a lightweight build because it has a CFW barrel.  The build specs on that particular rifle is trued SA Rem 700 w/spiral fluted bolt, McM Varmint model stock, Vortex HS-T 4-16x44, NF UL .885 ring, NF pic rail, 20in Proof CFW barrel, and standard Rem BDL bottom metal.  All fairly standard stuff with a fairly lightish optic (20oz) and if I recall the stock was right around 2lbs maybe a couple ounces more and that gun as it sits in the picture with no can still weighs 9lbs 1.5oz which certainly isn't what anyone would consider a LW build.  Because it's short, even with a can, it always feels lighter than it really is.

 Great info

[jjness11]

I recently had a 6mm Creedmoor built on my daughters shot out Tikka in .243 Win. Since she moved up to a 7mm-08, I took the action to Benchmark, had them put a heavy 8 twist MTU barrel on it. Put it in a MPA Chassis. Hands down the best shooting rifle I have ever shot. Heavy as heck, but with that weight, there is no recoil. With two other kids getting close to hunting age, I am considering building another one on a Model 70 action I have. I personally think the 6mm Creed is a better cartridge then the 243 Win (just my opinion). More modern case design, and faster twist option for heavier bullets.

[jasnt]

I’ve stuck with the 243 myself.  1:7 twist on my 5th or 6th barrel now (can’t remember) little more capacity and I’ve never had any trouble loading 115’s at mag length.  Even in times (like now) when components are not available I find 243 stuff on the shelves.  Probably why it’s shot the most.  Jmo

[buckfvr]

To say one is better than the other (6mm cm vs. .243 win), would be splitting hairs. 

[jasnt]

To say one is better than the other (6mm cm vs. .243 win), would be splitting hairs. 

yup
Really can’t say any cartridge is better than any other because it depends on the consumers needs and wants. 

[buckfvr]

With all the reading I've done on 6mm cm, when comparing its impact on the shooting world to its 6.5 brother, you are looking at overwhelming (6.5) and underwhelming (6mm). 6mm hasn't even come close to popularity levels of the 6.5.  I would not trade/replace my .243 with something so very similar as the 6mm cm. I also would not consider trade/replace of either of my 6.5cm, but at the same time, as a mostly deer hunter, if I could do it all over again, I'd no doubt settle on the veritable .270 Winchester. 

Yes I'm older and  have owned a great many calibers from the 22 centerfires up to and including .338.  Most of all, I miss my model 70 .270 with the laminated stock from the late 80's that Mike Palazzo accurized.  Fine shooter I will always regret having parted with.

[kselkhunter]

It really depends on bullet selection.   In the smaller weight bullets, say 80gr range, the 6mm CM, 243, and 6mm Rem are within 100fps of each other (obviously barrel length is a factor in comparing).   The 240 Wby and 243 WSSM are 100fps faster than those 3 cartridges, in that weight range.  The 24 Nosler is 300-400fps faster in that weight range.


Where the 6mm CM shines is in the longer heavier bullets 115gr VLD and 101gr Hammer Hunter, and both companies recommend a 1:7 twist rate on the barrel for those.   

[b23]

Seems to be plenty of factory rounds on the shelf, specs look good.

IMO, if you're shooting factory ammo and you want a .243/6mm the 6mm CM is going to be your best option.  Hornady has done a really good job with making factory ammo for the 6 & 6.5 CM that shoots very well in most factory guns.  They've done the same thing with the 6.5PRC as well.

[b23]

To say one is better than the other (6mm cm vs. .243 win), would be splitting hairs. 

yup
Really can’t say any cartridge is better than any other because it depends on the consumers needs and wants.

Bingo!