New Prairie dog gun?

[highcountry_hunter]

.204?

[Iveexcaped3]

Am I the only one the would think a good old fashioned 22 cal pellet gun is sufficient at 50 yds?

17hmr .40 a round 2375fps (standard 17gr fmj)
.22 LR target .10 a round 1070fps (standard 40gr lead plinking rounds)
.22 cal air .03 a round 975fps (standard shape 15.5gr)

[Stein]

I'm not sure that would work so well, the .22 LR doesn't exactly crush them most of the time.  Hollow points are required, solid bullets roll them on body shots but they often get up and keep running in my experience.

[jasnt]

I'm not sure that would work so well, the .22 LR doesn't exactly crush them most of the time.  Hollow points are required, solid bullets roll them on body shots but they often get up and keep running in my experience.

i would agree.  Even if it’s just varmints I want then dead ASAP. 

[b23]

I'm not sure that would work so well, the .22 LR doesn't exactly crush them most of the time.  Hollow points are required, solid bullets roll them on body shots but they often get up and keep running in my experience.

i would agree.  Even if it’s just varmints I want then dead ASAP.

Carnage, the splat factor and RatObatics is what makes it fun.  If they just tip over dead it's kind of a uneventful. 

It's a real bummer the 17 Hornet didn't take off better than it has because out to 350 the little 17 Hornet is a death ray on PD/ground squirrels and does so with considerably more splat factor than the 17 HMR or 17 WSM.  It's something you can shoot all day without breaking the bank or torching a barrel too.  CZ made a good one in their 527 line but in CZ's infinite wisdom they've decided to stop making the 527 as well as it doesn't appear they chamber that new thing they have coming out in 17 Hornet.  I think Savage still makes something in 17 Hornet and I'm not sure if Ruger still has their 77/17 Hornet or not.

[jasnt]

I’ve always wanted a 17 hornet

[NRA4LIFE]

The last time I got into them in MT all I had was my .243.  Splat factor was off the charts.  Red mist abounded.  60 gr at nearly 4K fps.  Nice thing about the .243 is it is legal everywhere (I think) for big game where the .22's are not in some states.

[huntnphool]

 I can shoot my 17HMR all day long and not have a issue....and it’s cheap to shoot for long periods of time.

[jasnt]

243 definitely makes a mess.  Had a few triple over 20’s     62gr Berger at 4K does well

[Iveexcaped3]

I was thinking more of headshots than anything. Either way a .22 in the upper chest cavity should be fatal, maybe not immediately.

[STEVO85]

An accurate .22lr for 0-150 and an accurate 17hmr for 0-300 is all you really need. You could stretch them both out a little farther if you wanted as well, plus they are much cheaper to shoot in volume. I shoot quite a few squirrels and rock chucks with that pair and never feel under gunned unless a coyote pops up or the wind is blowing pretty good, those little bullets drift a lot.

[NRA4LIFE]

62gr Berger at 4K does well 

OMIGOD!

[jasnt]

62gr Berger at 4K does well 

OMIGOD!

28” 1:7 if ya believe that.  Even 58gr survived that twist and speeds

[huntnphool]

An accurate .22lr for 0-150 and an accurate 17hmr for 0-300 is all you really need. You could stretch them both out a little farther if you wanted as well, plus they are much cheaper to shoot in volume. I shoot quite a few squirrels and rock chucks with that pair and never feel under gunned unless a coyote pops up or the wind is blowing pretty good, those little bullets drift a lot.

 +1, 300 is no problem on ground rats with a 17HMR.

[Lead ball 54]

I would go for the 458 socom better penetration then have a .223 for back up