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Mature Lion or Not?
« on: March 31, 2022, 05:59:54 PM »
Hoping to get some this forums expertise whether this cougar my camera stumbled upon is a mature cat or not? I am not experienced with cougars and was only in this area to scout for elk and deer. Appreciate anyone's input.


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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2022, 06:01:06 PM »
3 year old
Probably a female
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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2022, 06:07:39 PM »
Adult

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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2022, 07:21:05 PM »
 :yeah: Adult female
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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2022, 07:25:21 PM »
Adult and I wouldn't rule out Tom :twocents:

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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2022, 07:27:01 PM »
mature tom  :twocents:

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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2022, 07:32:26 PM »
From that one angle...

The head looks a little narrow, like a female, but the sway back and slightly haggard look could mean it's skinny, so it's possible it's a Tom. They're VERY hard to tell apart except in the most healthy cases.

It looks very long, like it's quite mature. Definitely not young, but it's just not BEEFY like a Tom should be.

My initial reaction is "Old. Tired. Possibly over the hill, can't hold territory, and has become transient." Male or female is still in doubt with that assessment.
    But then I look at coloration, and it's not really gray and the color is smooth...

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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2022, 07:33:12 PM »
has anyone asked the cat what they identify as ? 
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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2022, 07:35:41 PM »
has anyone asked the cat what they identify as ?

I guess that's the main factor these days, isn't it...
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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2022, 07:36:10 PM »
From that one angle...

The head looks a little narrow, like a female, but the sway back and slightly haggard look could mean it's skinny, so it's possible it's a Tom. They're VERY hard to tell apart except in the most healthy cases.

It looks very long, like it's quite mature. Definitely not young, but it's just not BEEFY like a Tom should be.

My initial reaction is "Old. Tired. Possibly over the hill, can't hold territory, and has become transient." Male or female is still in doubt with that assessment.
    But then I look at coloration, and it's not really gray and the color is smooth...

Cats are tricky!

the length is why I called tom, they're longer torso.   The front legs look pretty heavy, the ear twitched back pulls the face longer and sooths the blocky head toms get.   The rear legs are thick and heavy

all of it tells me a nice tom  :tup:

another thing is there's not really much of a primordial pouch that females get, toms can get them too, but not like females who've nursed

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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2022, 07:41:20 PM »
Old enough to remove from the area.

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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2022, 07:48:02 PM »
I would say it's an adult female

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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2022, 08:34:03 PM »
I would say it's an adult female


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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2022, 08:47:30 PM »
Can't say, I'm not a biologist... :IBCOOL:

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Re: Mature Lion or Not?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2022, 08:57:48 PM »
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