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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2022, 06:57:35 AM »
Lapua, adg or Peterson. I don’t care how long it lasts. I care about Consistency peace to peace
  :yeah: coincidentally however you also get more firings with quality brass.  My last batch of 200 lapua 6.5x284 brass had an overall weight spread of 1.1 grains. Recent bag of 450pc peterson 28 nosler had an overall spread of 2.7 grains. I did load workup for a guys 300 rum last year and 100 pieces of remington brass had an overall spread of 21 grains. Not 2.1 but 21!  Nosler brass is always around that 10 mark. You wanna shrink ES and improve accuracy, buy good brass. Consistency and quality components will solve a lot of guys issues with accuracy :twocents:
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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2022, 07:42:09 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with Gunwerks brass? I loaded up a batch of .300 WM using their brass. Haven't got to shoot them much yet. So I don't have an opinion yet.

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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2022, 07:53:21 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with Gunwerks brass? I loaded up a batch of .300 WM using their brass. Haven't got to shoot them much yet. So I don't have an opinion yet.

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that ADG puts up gunwerks stamped brass.
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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2022, 07:53:48 AM »
It is also important to know or say.....the average hunter reloading for sub 500 yards shots will likely not benefit to much from brass that is 2x as expensive.  If a guy can save money reloading and shoot MOA, there is no need to spend the extra money.  Now, if you strive to push the limits of accuracy and reload for more than saving money......yes, go with the premium brass. 

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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2022, 07:56:42 AM »
All things being equal, you're gonna get more firings out of premium brass so its usually more cost effective in the long run. Ive proven this to myself in many calibers.
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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2022, 07:58:51 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with Gunwerks brass? I loaded up a batch of .300 WM using their brass. Haven't got to shoot them much yet. So I don't have an opinion yet.

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that ADG puts up gunwerks stamped brass.
That makes sense that it's just branded by an actual brass company.

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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2022, 08:08:47 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with Gunwerks brass? I loaded up a batch of .300 WM using their brass. Haven't got to shoot them much yet. So I don't have an opinion yet.

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that ADG puts up gunwerks stamped brass.
That makes sense that it's just branded by an actual brass company.

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no clue if its fact or not so take it for what you paid for it which is zero dollars  :chuckle:
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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2022, 08:09:29 AM »
Will do. Lol

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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2022, 09:44:31 AM »
When possible, I'll opt for the better quality of Lapua, ADG, or Alpha every time.  IMO, top quality brass not only saves you time and money but it lends itself to more and better consistent ammo.  For me, the longevity of top quality brass is icing, the consistency and uniformity from piece to piece is what I like about it most.

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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2022, 10:06:40 AM »
Fwiw I remember gunworks being adg as well
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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2022, 12:25:48 PM »
Lapua, adg or Peterson. I don’t care how long it lasts. I care about Consistency peace to peace
  :yeah: coincidentally however you also get more firings with quality brass.  My last batch of 200 lapua 6.5x284 brass had an overall weight spread of 1.1 grains. Recent bag of 450pc peterson 28 nosler had an overall spread of 2.7 grains. I did load workup for a guys 300 rum last year and 100 pieces of remington brass had an overall spread of 21 grains. Not 2.1 but 21!  Nosler brass is always around that 10 mark. You wanna shrink ES and improve accuracy, buy good brass. Consistency and quality components will solve a lot of guys issues with accuracy :twocents:
couldn’t agree more.  10 years ago I scoffed at this higher priced brass.  Now it dictates what cartridge I choose to shoot.  You don’t know what ya don’t know till ya figure it out the hard way

Take my 300 wm for example.  It’s got 630 rounds through it now. That’s on 50 peace’s of lapua brass with loads on the high end of the spectrum.  Primer pockets are holding great with 12 reloads each and some have fired 13    With nosler I typically got 7-8. Winchester was worse.  In the end lapua will be cheaper per loading than the nosler was
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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2022, 01:28:22 PM »
Not trying to thread jack, but what's everyone's thoughts on Norma brass.

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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2022, 02:19:42 PM »
Not trying to thread jack, but what's everyone's thoughts on Norma brass.

Norma makes good brass.  Typically, most brass gets compared to Lapua particularly with regard to its toughness and when I say toughness I refer to Lapua's ability to hold primer pockets longer especially when run hard but that doesn't mean Norma isn't good brass.  Because Lapua can take a lot of punishment and still hold tight primer pockets it sometimes causes us to forget Lapua and a few others like it are the exception not the norm.  I use Norma in my 7mm Blaser mag, they're the only one that makes it, and I'm pushing 180 Berger's 3100 from a 26in barrel which is no cream puff load but it's also not full tilt redline and I've yet to throw away a piece of brass because the primer pockets weren't tight.

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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2022, 02:55:33 PM »
 I was going to go with adg but I can't find any and they told me they were not planning on making any for the smaller calibers this year, so I ended up getting norma.. was Iittle surprised no one had mentioned them.

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Re: Lapua vs starline
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2022, 03:26:41 PM »
Not trying to thread jack, but what's everyone's thoughts on Norma brass.
I've used a ton of 300wsm norma brass (3 barrels worth). Its gets kind of a bad wrap for being soft but ive had very good luck with it in wsm and creedmoor. I got a smoking deal on 250 pieces of prime stamped norma CM and its been great. Just loaded all of them last night for the 11th time and  still showing no loss of life. For the quality it is way over priced (not as bad as nosler) but if found on sale or your only brass option I say snag it up.
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