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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2022, 09:28:25 AM »
Republicans need a senate majority to resolve this issue. The Dem led senate natural resources committee  punted on conformations. Sportsmen have very few friejoritynd in the majority party.
They had hearings for three- Smith, Linville and Anderson. Two of the three were confirmed(Smith and Linville) leaving one of the strongest hunter voices not confirmed and "sitting". The newest three Rowland, Ragan and Lemkuhl did not receive a hearing. This is political posturing, including infighting amongst consumptive users, not wildlife management or policy.

I don't think the new appointees care about management. I think they care about ending opportunity. The whole commission is being used as a tool to push anti hunting agenda without having to deal with initiative's and voting...and they aren't even hiding it ...





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As I said, the good faith "contract" between WDFW and the hunting public is irrevocably broken. 

How long before the general hunting public realizes the dept cannot stop them from hunting whenever, wherever and whatever they want?


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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2022, 09:50:28 AM »
After watching that, it’s apparent that the commission doesn’t care about sportsmen/women. I don’t see it getting any better for us. Soon the commission will be filled with people like those two and it will happen because they will make it happen. Want it to happen. Just like most “things” right now, the commission and wdfw needs to be torn to the ground, rubble burned and rebuilt on fresh ground. But the likely hood of that happening is nil.
Sorry I’m a negative Nancy today I’m getting tired of all this bs. “ Can’t we all just get along”?
 
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2022, 09:56:02 AM »
After watching that, it’s apparent that the commission doesn’t care about sportsmen/women. I don’t see it getting any better for us. Soon the commission will be filled with people like those two and it will happen because they will make it happen. Want it to happen. Just like most “things” right now, the commission and wdfw needs to be torn to the ground, rubble burned and rebuilt on fresh ground. But the likely hood of that happening is nil.
Sorry I’m a negative Nancy today I’m getting tired of all this bs. “ Can’t we all just get along”?
 
Nope

That's not negative nancy, that's just the reality under Inslee and dem control of this state. 

We as hunters will loose more and more opportunities not because of game management needs, but due to "social considerations" concerns. 

The commission actually said that, see here:

"Social Considerations" is just fancy speak for agenda.
That was a blunt admission that the commission is no longer following their mission statement.



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The Commission establishes policies to preserve, protect, and perpetuate fish, wildlife, and ecosystems while providing sustainable fish and wildlife recreational and commercial opportunities compatible with healthy and diverse fish and wildlife populations. The Commission consists of nine governor-appointed members that serve six-year terms, hold meetings and hearings around the state and offer opportunities for the public to weigh in on fish and wildlife issues.
     
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2022, 10:16:14 AM »
Hoo boy, if there was ever a reason to be recalled these top the list.
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2022, 10:51:48 AM »
Republicans need a senate majority to resolve this issue. The Dem led senate natural resources committee  punted on conformations. Sportsmen have very few friejoritynd in the majority party.
They had hearings for three- Smith, Linville and Anderson. Two of the three were confirmed(Smith and Linville) leaving one of the strongest hunter voices not confirmed and "sitting". The newest three Rowland, Ragan and Lemkuhl did not receive a hearing. This is political posturing, including infighting amongst consumptive users, not wildlife management or policy.
Are you stating the comissioners or some one else in your last sentence
?
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2022, 11:32:53 AM »
Listened to half so far, word salad to me, I’ve seen zero that makes sense! Anyone have a time I could forward to that makes any sense?? Even here in Mexico, my time is valuable, I just waisted an hour! Good thing it’s raining here.
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2022, 11:37:23 AM »
Republicans need a senate majority to resolve this issue. The Dem led senate natural resources committee  punted on conformations. Sportsmen have very few friejoritynd in the majority party.
They had hearings for three- Smith, Linville and Anderson. Two of the three were confirmed(Smith and Linville) leaving one of the strongest hunter voices not confirmed and "sitting". The newest three Rowland, Ragan and Lemkuhl did not receive a hearing. This is political posturing, including infighting amongst consumptive users, not wildlife management or policy.
Are you stating the comissioners or some one else in your last sentence
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The commission (inslee appointed) and  the senate natural resources committee.  The senate committee is pitting consumptive users against each other.  It's a dangerous game for all. It will backfire on the ones propping these legislators up.

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2022, 12:50:46 PM »
Republicans need a senate majority to resolve this issue. The Dem led senate natural resources committee  punted on conformations. Sportsmen have very few friejoritynd in the majority party.
They had hearings for three- Smith, Linville and Anderson. Two of the three were confirmed(Smith and Linville) leaving one of the strongest hunter voices not confirmed and "sitting". The newest three Rowland, Ragan and Lemkuhl did not receive a hearing. This is political posturing, including infighting amongst consumptive users, not wildlife management or policy.
Are you stating the comissioners or some one else in your last sentence
?
The commission (inslee appointed) and  the senate natural resources committee.  The senate committee is pitting consumptive users against each other.  It's a dangerous game for all. It will backfire on the ones propping these legislators up.

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2022, 09:26:02 PM »
Listened to half so far, word salad to me, I’ve seen zero that makes sense! Anyone have a time I could forward to that makes any sense?? Even here in Mexico, my time is valuable, I just waisted an hour! Good thing it’s raining here.
56 minutes in.
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2022, 09:44:57 PM »
Listened to half so far, word salad to me, I’ve seen zero that makes sense! Anyone have a time I could forward to that makes any sense?? Even here in Mexico, my time is valuable, I just waisted an hour! Good thing it’s raining here.
56 minutes in.
If you started at the 56min mark it wouldn't be so  confusing.
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2022, 06:24:41 AM »
Well I have listened to quite a bit of Rowland and Smiths ranting. To me it is evident that those 2 to want to have more input on the seasons, harvest quota, etc. Smith brought up no less than 3 times that she essentially didnt care squat about the hunters survey since only 4 % hunt. She also went on to pretty much say that cougar depredation didnt have a significant effect on Blues elk population but shed hunters, e bikes etc. I was glad to see that Commissioner Thornburn brought up the unfortunate attack on the 9 yr old girl. Especially since I emailed the commission about it.
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2022, 06:45:46 AM »
If you've ever wondered about where ALF and Greenpeace members disappeared to, look no further then government agency's!  Decades ago the stated that since they couldn't always win in courts, the next best thing is to become "employee's" to make changes they wanted done!

A lot of bell ringing was done back in the 80's but no one wanted to listen or believe it would happen!  oh well!  :bash:
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2022, 07:09:14 AM »
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2022, 08:08:27 AM »
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2022, 08:17:10 AM »
Yet so many hunters continue to support/fund them through license purchases....

 


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