Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant

[pickardjw]

As sportsmen we need to do a better job killing predators. I'm as guilty as everyone else in this way. I've never killed a bear or cougar so I'm as guilty as the rest. Gonna need to re read Bozes bear book and get after it. We can kill 2 so killing the first one we shouldn't be to picky.

I think I'm gonna pick up an electronic predator caller. Doug was just on the Exo podcast, and Phelp's podcast talking about calling bears. Hope to call some cats in too.

[Ridgeratt]

How many feel when Inslee makes the new appointment's he will actually vary from what he has chosen already? I think you are seeing the writing on the wall.

[Dysfunctional Vet]

How many feel when Inslee makes the new appointment's he will actually very from what he has chosen already? I think you are seeing the writing on the wall.

To me it looks like it’s a race of the west coast to see who is the greatest *censored* state by banning hunting first. My money is on California and the rest will follow. As usual.

[trophyhunt]

Thanks for the time frame Rainier.  I tried to watch, made it to 1:15 min, just can’t stomach anymore.

[GASoline71]

How many feel when Inslee makes the new appointment's he will actually very from what he has chosen already? I think you are seeing the writing on the wall.

To me it looks like it’s a race of the west coast to see who is the greatest *censored* state by banning hunting first. My money is on California and the rest will follow. As usual.

I don't know if Cali would be a safe bet.  The Cali game commission just told the HSUS to shove it during the HSUS attempt to shut down bear hunting in Cali earlier this Spring.

Gary

[Special T]

How many feel when Inslee makes the new appointment's he will actually very from what he has chosen already? I think you are seeing the writing on the wall.

Well here is the Rub...We know the kind  Commissioners he wants, and we know that the RCW 77.04.030 has stipulations in it and they are not being meet. So who is in our bull pen? Who are the Pro sportsmen that are moderate Dems? Blake was likely overlooked because he would run rough shot all over the fools, but pressure could still be brought to the governor. Surely some past rural democrat county commissioners, or other positions, that are pro hunting can be found.

Say sportsmen get lucky and take hold of the senate, you now control the conformation process and get rid of HSUS shill Kevin Van DeWege. WHO are we gonna put up to represent us? Who can we find that would make it hard for the Govenor to refuse?

[Ridgeratt]

How many feel when Inslee makes the new appointment's he will actually very from what he has chosen already? I think you are seeing the writing on the wall.

Well here is the Rub...We know the kind  Commissioners he wants, and we know that the RCW 77.04.030 has stipulations in it and they are not being meet. So who is in our bull pen? Who are the Pro sportsmen that are moderate Dems? Blake was likely overlooked because he would run rough shot all over the fools, but pressure could still be brought to the governor. Surely some past rural democrat county commissioners, or other positions, that are pro hunting can be found.

Say sportsmen get lucky and take hold of the senate, you now control the conformation process and get rid of HSUS shill Kevin Van DeWege. WHO are we gonna put up to represent us? Who can we find that would make it hard for the Govenor to refuse?

Not sure if Sportsman will take hold of the senate, as a group hunters make up less than 15 %.  If you ask around you friend see just how many follow any of the news. An example of this. I am renting to a custodian for Dist 81. I asked him about the student who was arrested for threats to one of the schools. He had heard nothing about it. Lots of people are just tired of listening to any news what so ever.


How did that work for "us" on the increased cougar quotas? He did what he felt was in the best interest of the state.  Just ask him.

[Special T]

How many feel when Inslee makes the new appointment's he will actually very from what he has chosen already? I think you are seeing the writing on the wall.

Well here is the Rub...We know the kind  Commissioners he wants, and we know that the RCW 77.04.030 has stipulations in it and they are not being meet. So who is in our bull pen? Who are the Pro sportsmen that are moderate Dems? Blake was likely overlooked because he would run rough shot all over the fools, but pressure could still be brought to the governor. Surely some past rural democrat county commissioners, or other positions, that are pro hunting can be found.

Say sportsmen get lucky and take hold of the senate, you now control the conformation process and get rid of HSUS shill Kevin Van DeWege. WHO are we gonna put up to represent us? Who can we find that would make it hard for the Govenor to refuse?

Not sure if Sportsman will take hold of the senate, as a group hunters make up less than 15 %.  If you ask around you friend see just how many follow any of the news. An example of this. I am renting to a custodian for Dist 81. I asked him about the student who was arrested for threats to one of the schools. He had heard nothing about it. Lots of people are just tired of listening to any news what so ever.


How did that work for "us" on the increased cougar quotas? He did what he felt was in the best interest of the state.  Just ask him.

Well I was trying not to be so blunt, but the fact is Republicans tend to be friendlier than Dems on sportsmen issues. I believe Republicans will take the seats necessary to remove Van DeWege from the Chair of the Natural resources committee.

[Elkaholic daWg]

  Wow KF is definately right!    Inslard, Pugetropolans, and their ilk have subverted the commission . into something resembling "the swamp".
 Those 2 need to be on the ecology dept commission. they have no idea what the mission statement is and seem to be determined to  :bash:change it!
 2 hours of mostly their ignorance I cant get back

[Bushcraft]

I've been warning about this takeover of WDFW by anti's for years. Mostly on deaf ears, both inside and outside the Department.

It's interesting to watch some of them squirm with Smith and Rowland.

To mix some idioms: They let the camel's nose in the tent and now the chickens have come home to roost.

The reason that Smith, Rowland, and other anti-hunting commissioners and staff want the public survey is that the survey questions are likely absurdly flawed which results in a WILDLY overly skewed response of the general public's interest and involvement in wildlife.  At least they were in the past when I was on WDAC. It was all I could do to not laugh in the faces of the idiot staff and birds and butterfly wingnuts (Including Fred Koontz) that ignored the obvious flaws and gave it an overly weighted value for use in Department priorities.

[Jake Dogfish]

It is amazing to me to look at the resumes of Rowland and Smith and then see what dunces they are. The disconnect is amazing and discouraging.

Unfortunately the other two recent Inslee appointees are equally clueless.  Ragan mumbles and doesn’t seem to know anything about fishing and hunting.  Lemkeul hides behind saying he’s a hunter, but doesn’t vote like one.   

[idahohuntr]

It is amazing to me to look at the resumes of Rowland and Smith and then see what dunces they are. The disconnect is amazing and discouraging.

Unfortunately the other two recent Inslee appointees are equally clueless.  Ragan mumbles and doesn’t seem to know anything about fishing and hunting.  Lemkeul hides behind saying he’s a hunter, but doesn’t vote like one.   

I'm still holding like 3% hope that he's mostly a hunter who is just spineless and was told his appointment to the commission was predicated on voting down spring bear this year.

If he keeps parroting Lorna and voting with her though...I look forward to going to an in person commission meeting and publicly asking him to stop calling himself a hunter, because it is incredibly disparaging to those of us who actually hunt and support the hunting heritage that has been the greatest conservation tool the world has ever seen.

[Special T]

It is amazing to me to look at the resumes of Rowland and Smith and then see what dunces they are. The disconnect is amazing and discouraging.

Unfortunately the other two recent Inslee appointees are equally clueless.  Ragan mumbles and doesn’t seem to know anything about fishing and hunting.  Lemkeul hides behind saying he’s a hunter, but doesn’t vote like one.   

I'm still holding like 3% hope that he's mostly a hunter who is just spineless and was told his appointment to the commission was predicated on voting down spring bear this year.

If he keeps parroting Lorna and voting with her though...I look forward to going to an in person commission meeting and publicly asking him to stop calling himself a hunter, because it is incredibly disparaging to those of us who actually hunt and support the hunting heritage that has been the greatest conservation tool the world has ever seen.

I have heard that he has held a turkey and small game license and is a avid upland hunter. The Goone from Anacortes has had neither a hunting or fishing License and Rowland a fishing lic...but thats it.Not exactly a raving endorsement...

[Dysfunctional Vet]

How many feel when Inslee makes the new appointment's he will actually very from what he has chosen already? I think you are seeing the writing on the wall.

To me it looks like it’s a race of the west coast to see who is the greatest *censored* state by banning hunting first. My money is on California and the rest will follow. As usual.

I don't know if Cali would be a safe bet.  The Cali game commission just told the HSUS to shove it during the HSUS attempt to shut down bear hunting in Cali earlier this Spring.

Gary

I’m really surprised by that but it’s awesome they did. They really hate guns and anything hunting related in that state. AlGrew up there. One thing they always did right was fishing. They’d stock monster trout, up to 20lbs and the small ones were 2 pounds. None of these 8” guppies I get to catch here.

[Ridgeratt]

How many feel when Inslee makes the new appointment's he will actually very from what he has chosen already? I think you are seeing the writing on the wall.

Well here is the Rub...We know the kind  Commissioners he wants, and we know that the RCW 77.04.030 has stipulations in it and they are not being meet. So who is in our bull pen? Who are the Pro sportsmen that are moderate Dems? Blake was likely overlooked because he would run rough shot all over the fools, but pressure could still be brought to the governor. Surely some past rural democrat county commissioners, or other positions, that are pro hunting can be found.

Say sportsmen get lucky and take hold of the senate, you now control the conformation process and get rid of HSUS shill Kevin Van DeWege. WHO are we gonna put up to represent us? Who can we find that would make it hard for the Govenor to refuse?

Not sure if Sportsman will take hold of the senate, as a group hunters make up less than 15 %.  If you ask around you friend see just how many follow any of the news. An example of this. I am renting to a custodian for Dist 81. I asked him about the student who was arrested for threats to one of the schools. He had heard nothing about it. Lots of people are just tired of listening to any news what so ever.


How did that work for "us" on the increased cougar quotas? He did what he felt was in the best interest of the state.  Just ask him.

Well I was trying not to be so blunt, but the fact is Republicans tend to be friendlier than Dems on sportsmen issues. I believe Republicans will take the seats necessary to remove Van DeWege from the Chair of the Natural resources committee.

I "Dont" share your optimism that the 3 western counties will vote in and Republicans. I think they have grown found of what Inslee is feeding them and they like the taste. I hope that you prove me wrong, But just not feelin it.

I thought about being a little more blunt, but I may have been awarded a time out or sent to the guillotine.